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Originally Posted by OldDutch
Really, this is the game plan? Fingers in ears, lalala and all that?
You can obviously say any policy is or isn't destructive based on what you value and what is being destroyed.
Example: If you value environmentalism over economic development, then the tanker ban is not destructive. If you value economic development more, than it is.
There is a reason the Liberals ejected Trudeau. He bet on policies that he thought we not destructive to Canadians, and in turn he very nearly caused them to lose the election.
It's why Carney is here, why he is changing Liberal policy, because it's has been widely recognized that the Trudeau Liberals made seriously bad bets on policy.
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Which policy is destructive or toxic? At worst the tanker "ban" is inconvenient. "Oh no, tankers can carry 12,500 or less tons of crude but not 12,501 or more tons. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa" (not an actual ban on tankers)
The Trudeau haters come out with these absurd sweeping statements, generalizations, and no solid examples or facts. Personally, I have a pile of reasons that I was not a fan of Trudeau and a pile of reasons that I am glad he was PM for the last 10 years (especially when you look at the alternatives the CPC put forth) but my position is backed with facts instead of feelings. Unfortunately, I think the best policies that Trudeau put forth were actually NDP policies as they used their leverage to get things done for the people but do not get credit for the outcomes.
As a Carney supporter, I am glad to have an adult in charge of the country instead of a childish fearmongering slogan machine. I find it hilarious that Trudeau was the one to bring Carney in and many conservatives are celebrating Carney but trying to forget that Trudeau is why Carney is here. The Liberals knew that incumbent governments were getting wrecked in elections around the world because of inflation and cost of living and it became obvious that the only way they were going to survive their election was with a significant leadership change.
As for policy, I think Carney's policies so far have all been double edged swords where the first half of the policy looks great and the second half looks terrible. For example, the border security bill was solid and reasonable in the first half. Beef up the border, more people, drones, or whatever. The second half of the bill basically said that we no longer have privacy on the internet and all of our data was going to be served up to Trump. uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
But really, if you guys cannot list some policies that the Trudeau Liberals put forth or why they were "toxic and destructive" then maybe you need to reflect on why you are saying that? Is it because you do not know any better and are just parroting what the conservative propaganda machine has been yelling into your facebook/instagram/postmedia feeds?
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Originally Posted by OldDutch
I didn't even think this was debatable but here we are I guess.
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Start thinking for yourself.
