Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by peter12

Where are you getting these numbers? Late April Nanos polling showed Conservatives with 44% support from 18-34 year olds and the Liberals with only 31%.

The opposite with the old is true here in Canada. Boomers and old Gen X are the only LPC stalwarts left.

Cost of living is by far the most important issue for people under 34, which is why the two parties are in a dead heat once again.

Would be interested in where you get these exit poll numbers for Canada… Elections Canada’s report on federal election won’t be released until the end of the year.

Edit: even other numbers from Angus Reid in late March show Liberals with a very very small edge among voters under 34 (45% to 39% for males). The big story this last election was actually the gender divide, but anyway.

Again, just genuinely curious where you are getting these numbers…

More on these exit polls... My god, where did you get your numbers, bro? I am genuinely curious.

"Canada election tells a tale of 2 demographics split on top issues"

Abacus conducted polls in the 3 days after the election which had an age breakdown showing the Liberals leading 46 to 39 for U30 voters. Conservatives did gain among 30-44 year olds, but based on the other demographics it's probably safe to assume that their gains were in the older part of that cohort:

https://abacusdata.ca/what-happened-...n-post-mortem/

Research Co also did exit polling. While this poll didn't explicitly ask how people voted, the Liberals' generally outperformed the Conservatives among Gen Z. And 59% of Gen Z voters thought Poilievre should resign if he lost the election, which was the highest among any age demographic.

https://researchco.ca/wp-content/upl..._29Apr2025.pdf

You'll note that the exit poll you linked doesn't actually provide vote percentages, so it doesn't provide a whole lot of value. Someone could think cost of living was their biggest issue and still not vote Conservative.

[afc wimbledon]

Originally Posted by peter12

Young people are voting Conservative.

young people aren't voting for anyone, they didn't vote much before social media, now their political presence is non existant, they seem to think posting support on twitter or instagram is more important than voting

We are living in the twilight of democracy sadly

[Locke]

Originally Posted by afc wimbledon

young people aren't voting for anyone, they didn't vote much before social media, now their political presence is non existant, they seem to think posting support on twitter or instagram is more important than voting

We are living in the twilight of democracy sadly

Sounds like an ideal demographic ripe for takeover by people with more experience!

[kermitology]

Originally Posted by #-3

What have conservative governments done to reduce the government foot print beyond privatizing profits? Smith for example has recruited to conservations officers to monitor park passes which are sold to pay the salaries of the conservation officers. She' broken health boards into smaller pieces paying more people to do the same job, she's created inquiries and panels where she can award government contracts to friends and doners. This is not a small government play, this is about getting government to do the work so some people can reap larger profits.

I'll also say the lefts woke problem is more of a leadership problem. They need to show the leadership to tell their supporters when they are going to far. Not always but in general it is rarely the politician leading with these dumb ideas (like it is on the right)

Perhaps I phrased that poorly. That's usually the rhetoric that is used during campaigns and in public statements - get the government out of the private sector! But you see removals of regulations, privatization of public services under the guise that private enterprise can deliver services more efficiently than government can, contractors hired instead of public servants, etc.

It's all in service of lining the pockets of the already wealthy while Joe Public pays increasingly higher costs for housing, electricity, insurance, gas, etc..

You also see a focus on crime prosecution instead of a focus on crime reduction through public service. It's all a giant scam that is taking money from our pockets and concentrating it in those who can never be satisfied by "enough"

[peter12]

Originally Posted by opendoor

Abacus conducted polls in the 3 days after the election which had an age breakdown showing the Liberals leading 46 to 39 for U30 voters. Conservatives did gain among 30-44 year olds, but based on the other demographics it's probably safe to assume that their gains were in the older part of that cohort:

https://abacusdata.ca/what-happened-...n-post-mortem/

Research Co also did exit polling. While this poll didn't explicitly ask how people voted, the Liberals' generally outperformed the Conservatives among Gen Z. And 59% of Gen Z voters thought Poilievre should resign if he lost the election, which was the highest among any age demographic.

https://researchco.ca/wp-content/upl..._29Apr2025.pdf

You'll note that the exit poll you linked doesn't actually provide vote percentages, so it doesn't provide a whole lot of value. Someone could think cost of living was their biggest issue and still not vote Conservative.

I will check out the Abacaus data more. FWIW Research is not very reputable.

[opendoor]

Research Co is OK, not the best but still decently rated.

Or you can just look at the final polls of the election by the various pollsters. Obviously age breakdowns have huge margins of error, but most of the best pollsters had the Liberals up among young people. Leger, Angus Reid, Abacus, and Research Co all had the Liberals leading among 18-34 year olds in their final polls, with a range of +7 to +14. Nanos is the only well-rated pollster I'm aware of that had the Conservatives up in that demographic.

Canada likely played out similarly to the US. Growth in right wing support among young men, a rightward shift among older millenials and Gen X, and then older people shifting to the left.

But even if we're being charitable, the Conservatives got, at best, 40% of the 18-34 vote. So young people certainly aren't voting Conservative en masse. Particularly when turnout in that age group is barely over 50% most of the time.

[peter12]

I see your point but I think you are missing the larger one here.

[chemgear]

Excellent. A start to maybe turn around the wasted decade.

https://financialpost.com/pmn/busine...licy-in-europe

Canadian Energy Minister Tim Hodgson said his government is taking steps toward exporting natural gas to Europe, and criticized former Prime Minister Justin Trudeau for not making the same effort.

“Unlike the previous Canadian government, which closed the door to LNG exports, Prime Minister Carney’s government has opened it,” said Hodgson, a rookie politician who previously worked with Carney at Goldman Sachs Group Inc. “If the demand is here, and the infrastructure is built, Canada will deliver.”

[Fuzz]

I liked that period here where I just assumed Peter12 had died and we'd never have to wade through his feces around here ever again. unfortunately that wasn't the case. But I guess he thinks people would actually believe he'd so thoroughly engage in a game of "who's your Nazi" and then vanish after being called out for it that he could just wade back in again and pretend he's not a vapid imbecile until he gets a chance to take another mentally stunted run at the forum.

Don't go away sad Peter, just go away.

And yes, I did notice you didn't apologize for that, which is fairly telling about the type of person you choose to be.