Monarch Airlines is introducing non-reclining seating across its fleet.
The new ergonomic seats feature a thinner design, resulting in more legroom for passengers.
And, in an industry first, Monarch has installed mobile/tablet holders in the space where IFE screens normally sit (see above image), enabling passengers to comfortably watch their own devices.
Tim Williamson, Monarch's director of customer experience and marketing, said: "Our new ergonomic seats have been designed with our customers' needs in the forefront of our minds.
"The new non-reclining design gives our customers far more 'living space' than traditional seats, without the fear of the person in front impinging on their personal space.
Place your bets on when this makes it to North America.
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I'm fine with that, especially on shorter flights. The seats aren't going to get any further apart, so I'd rather have space in front of me than space behind me.
On a recent WestJet flight, the person next to me had someone in front of them in full recline. She couldn't even have a drink on her table, and the TV screen was at such an angle that it wasn't even viewable.
I've been suggesting this lately. Who cares about reclining back a couple of inches, meanwhile it really sucks to have the person in front of you drop back limiting your personal space. We even had a bit of an unruly incident with people in back getting angry when they went back, then the guy in front feeling that they were kicking his seat intentionally and ended up threatening them. And that isn't that uncommon.
Just make them so they don't recline.
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I just blows me away that some people are incapable of sitting upright in a chair for 3-6 hours without bitching and moaning, and using the bathroom 76 times. I truly believe some people don't even need to use the washrooms, they just go in there for something to do.
I have never once used an airplane washroom, and I have probably flown 100-120 times. Pee before you get on the frikkin plane, and don't hit the buffet 2 hours before you get on the thing. I get some people have incontinence and bladder issues, but when you see the bloody parade to that room on a Hawaii flight, you's think every person on the plane is suffering from food poisoning.
I don't like the recliners, but I don't mind if people get up to use the washroom. Its not really good for you to remain seated without moving for hours on end.
It just blows me away that some people get angered about losing 3 inches of space 2 feet away from their face.
That's the person in front of me's space, not mine. Just like the 3" behind me is my space, not the person behind me's.
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On a recent WestJet flight, the person next to me had someone in front of them in full recline. She couldn't even have a drink on her table, and the TV screen was at such an angle that it wasn't even viewable.
Unless the seat was broken and reclined too far, it is impossible for this statement to be correct.
It just blows me away that some people get angered about losing 3 inches of space 2 feet away from their face.
That's the person in front of me's space, not mine. Just like the 3" behind me is my space, not the person behind me's.
Unless the seat was broken and reclined too far, it is impossible for this statement to be correct.
This is the reason why I HATE people reclining their seats. It's more of a common courtesy to those around you. I am not a small guy, but if I want to have the tray down and set up my Ipad and d-bag in front of me wants to recline his seat, it comes down more than 3 inches, depending on the airline and their seats and pitch, its probably more like 5-6 inches. That is quite a bit of space lost to me considering I am not a 5'1 100lbs person. Why should my flight experience be interrupted by that person in front of me who cant handle sitting upright for more than 30 mins? I'm not going to be a d-bag and recline my seat to effect those behind me.
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This is the reason why I HATE people reclining their seats. It's more of a common courtesy to those around you. I am not a small guy, but if I want to have the tray down and set up my Ipad and d-bag in front of me wants to recline his seat, it comes down more than 3 inches, depending on the airline and their seats and pitch, its probably more like 5-6 inches. That is quite a bit of space lost to me considering I am not a 5'1 100lbs person. Why should my flight experience be interrupted by that person in front of me who cant handle sitting upright for more than 30 mins? I'm not going to be a d-bag and recline my seat to effect those behind me.
I love you cry babies. I always recline my seat. It's an option on the plane and I have every right to do so. This "common courtesy" thing you speak of is crap. You don't like it, upgrade to 1st class or economy plus.
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Despite the usual terrible media writing on all things aviation this article is pretty interesting. A USAF B-1B bomber Captain assists a First Officer in landing a 737 after the Captain suffered a heart attack.
I would have loved to have heard the exchange in the cockpit with the FO asking him what he flies:
"A supersonic bomber for the Air Force. So what can I do to help?"
Now before anyone asks, YES the FO could have done everything on her own and landed the 737 just fine. Nobody on that plane was close to anything resembling mortal danger. However there would have be a substantial workload on her, handling all the checklists, radios, setting up the aircraft for landing, and of course landing it too. Getting another pilot in there to take some of that workload off of her (reading checklists, working the radio for her) was an added bonus that made it much easier.
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Despite the usual terrible media writing on all things aviation this article is pretty interesting. A USAF B-1B bomber Captain assists a First Officer in landing a 737 after the Captain suffered a heart attack.
I would have loved to have heard the exchange in the cockpit with the FO asking him what he flies:
"A supersonic bomber for the Air Force. So what can I do to help?"
Now before anyone asks, YES the FO could have done everything on her own and landed the 737 just fine. Nobody on that plane was close to anything resembling mortal danger. However there would have be a substantial workload on her, handling all the checklists, radios, setting up the aircraft for landing, and of course landing it too. Getting another pilot in there to take some of that workload off of her (reading checklists, working the radio for her) was an added bonus that made it much easier.
Any idea what the "non-revenue pilot" requirement was for?
Any idea what the "non-revenue pilot" requirement was for?
Non-revenue usually refers to a pilot traveling on the flight commuting. Perhaps a less scary way of asking the entire cabin "Is there a pilot on board?".
Yes, probably hoping for a company pilot who might have been traveling standby in the back. Non-rev just refers to someone traveling on standby passes.
I just blows me away that some people are incapable of sitting upright in a chair for 3-6 hours without bitching and moaning, and using the bathroom 76 times. I truly believe some people don't even need to use the washrooms, they just go in there for something to do.
I have never once used an airplane washroom, and I have probably flown 100-120 times. Pee before you get on the frikkin plane, and don't hit the buffet 2 hours before you get on the thing. I get some people have incontinence and bladder issues, but when you see the bloody parade to that room on a Hawaii flight, you's think every person on the plane is suffering from food poisoning.
I was on a BA flight from Calgary to London back in April and there was a guy sitting about three rows ahead of me, and there was an old lady sitting in front of him. About 2/3 of the way through the flight, they got into a spat because the old lady wanted to put her seat back, and the guy behind her wouldn't let him. Eventually, the stewardess came over and her and the guy went 10 rounds over it all. She even asked if the guy would consider going to the back of the plane so he can stretch out while the old lady could lean back. He refused, and the old lady had to go to the back. And the fact of the matter was this guy was no taller than average Joe Canuck, just being an uber ######.
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It just blows me away that some people get angered about losing 3 inches of space 2 feet away from their face.
That's the person in front of me's space, not mine. Just like the 3" behind me is my space, not the person behind me's.
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I love you cry babies. I always recline my seat. It's an option on the plane and I have every right to do so. This "common courtesy" thing you speak of is crap. You don't like it, upgrade to 1st class or economy plus.
As someone who is 6'4-6'5, I think I have every right to disagree with the both of you. It does not matter the airline or if the seat is leaned back or not, my knees are always driving into the seat of the person in front of me. This only gets worse if someone think of leaning their seat back, and it becomes impossible to move.
The argument that I should pay to upgrade to economy plus or 1st class is unfounded. It's not as if I have the choice of being tall or short. If I am paying the same fare as the person ahead, behind, or beside me for the same level of comfort, why should I have to pay more to be accommodated? The only thing that is worse is trying to get an exit row seat or bulkhead seat and finding out it has been taken by someone who's feet don't even touch the floor.
Wow. I seriously never even imagined people would be upset about reclining seats on an airplane. Really? Haven't they been around since shortly after flight was invented?
I guess people will find anything to be upset about if they want to be upset. I approach flying this way:
1- I'm getting there way faster than any other method.
2- It's likely going to involve discomfort during some points of the process or even all parts of the process (baggage check, security, etc).
3- But I'm flying, so there's that.
I was on a BA flight from Calgary to London back in April and there was a guy sitting about three rows ahead of me, and there was an old lady sitting in front of him. About 2/3 of the way through the flight, they got into a spat because the old lady wanted to put her seat back, and the guy behind her wouldn't let him. Eventually, the stewardess came over and her and the guy went 10 rounds over it all. She even asked if the guy would consider going to the back of the plane so he can stretch out while the old lady could lean back. He refused, and the old lady had to go to the back. And the fact of the matter was this guy was no taller than average Joe Canuck, just being an uber ######.
As someone who is 6'4-6'5, I think I have every right to disagree with the both of you. It does not matter the airline or if the seat is leaned back or not, my knees are always driving into the seat of the person in front of me. This only gets worse if someone think of leaning their seat back, and it becomes impossible to move.
The argument that I should pay to upgrade to economy plus or 1st class is unfounded. It's not as if I have the choice of being tall or short. If I am paying the same fare as the person ahead, behind, or beside me for the same level of comfort, why should I have to pay more to be accommodated? The only thing that is worse is trying to get an exit row seat or bulkhead seat and finding out it has been taken by someone who's feet don't even touch the floor.
You have the choice to fly or not. And you also have a choice on class. No you didn't pick your height, but neither did the person in front of you.
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