Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[Sylvanfan]

From this thread.

ATA membership of 51,000 but as far as I know no breakdown on how many are full time, part time, substitute, or student.

350,000 students under the age of 12.

The deal that's been rejected is 4 years. They've also been without a contract for just over a year as well. So right now there will be at least a year of back pay.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by fotze2

I know it’s pointless and semantic but does anyone have the rough number of:
- number of unionized teachers?
- number of children under grade 6?
- contract length? 5 year?

Just want to do rough numbers of salary increase that could be paid with this absurd 30 buck thing with # of days on strike vs contract on the other axis that could have been paid for.

I think the contract length is 5 years.

The rest of the math doesn't really matter because the government is going to use the budget that would have been allocated to pay the teachers to instead give the money to the parents. It is a pretty gross tactic when you consider that Smith is using what should be the teacher's salaries to try and bribe the parents of Alberta. But they are not dipping into another amount of money to do the $30 thing.

The better questions would be:
- How much money is the government wasting on the advertising campaign to trash on the teachers?
- How well could they pay the teachers if they stopped subsidizing private schools? (This report suggests it is $461M per year to private schools and child-care facilities, which is up $43M from last year and they plan to raise it to $544M by 2027/8)
- How well could they pay the teachers if they stopped subsidizing charter schools? (or move them back into the public system)
- How much of our money are they wasting on the Alberta Next panel where they insult and threaten children?
- How much of an impact has their funding formula had on the system? "This formula was criticized by the ATA, and public and separate school boards for penalizing large urban school divisions with fast-growing enrollment to benefit rural districts with stagnant or declining enrollment."

[Eric Vail]

All the contract proposals have been for four years so far.

[Torture]

Originally Posted by Wolven

I think the contract length is 5 years.

The rest of the math doesn't really matter because the government is going to use the budget that would have been allocated to pay the teachers to instead give the money to the parents. It is a pretty gross tactic when you consider that Smith is using what should be the teacher's salaries to try and bribe the parents of Alberta. But they are not dipping into another amount of money to do the $30 thing.

The better questions would be:
- How much money is the government wasting on the advertising campaign to trash on the teachers?
- How well could they pay the teachers if they stopped subsidizing private schools? (This report suggests it is $461M per year to private schools and child-care facilities, which is up $43M from last year and they plan to raise it to $544M by 2027/8)
- How well could they pay the teachers if they stopped subsidizing charter schools? (or move them back into the public system)
- How much of our money are they wasting on the Alberta Next panel where they insult and threaten children?
- How much of an impact has their funding formula had on the system? "This formula was criticized by the ATA, and public and separate school boards for penalizing large urban school divisions with fast-growing enrollment to benefit rural districts with stagnant or declining enrollment."

Careful, those kinds of questions will get you a good spankin'.