Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by calculoso

https://twitter.com/user/status/1585991601515466752

can they tweak the legislation, perhaps?
maybe give the offender 10 or 20 years on the list, and they can apply to be removed if they don't reoffend?

I'm guessing the issue was being on the list for life.

[TorqueDog]

How is this substantially different from having a criminal record otherwise which is also -- barring a pardon -- effectively for life? Is it because the sex offender register is publicly viewable and could thereby have a much greater impact on a person, whereas a criminal record check requires permission and isn't an open, public register?

[Dogbert]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1586029772810776577

This seems bad for Dougie - but then again, I seem to recall there being videos online of him doing and saying exactly this while the convoy was still ongoing, and nobody cared. Would explain why he’s so dead set against testifying, though.

[GordonBlue]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

How is this substantially different from having a criminal record otherwise which is also -- barring a pardon -- effectively for life? Is it because the sex offender register is publicly viewable and could thereby have a much greater impact on a person, whereas a criminal record check requires permission and isn't an open, public register?

that, and the stigma.

Who would you be more likely to date, rent to, or hire? The guy with a criminal record for a non violent crime, or the guy who is a registered sex offender?

[rubecube]

Well this is some good news at least.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1586055509723209729

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Well this is some good news at least.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1586055509723209729

... wait ... did the budget just. ... balance itself?

Spoiler!

I'll see myself out

[Izzle]

Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

... wait ... did the budget just. ... balance itself?

Spoiler!

I'll see myself out

The Federal government benefited from high oil prices.

The provincial government was all fiscal prudence.

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by Dogbert

https://twitter.com/user/status/1586029772810776577

This seems bad for Dougie - but then again, I seem to recall there being videos online of him doing and saying exactly this while the convoy was still ongoing, and nobody cared. Would explain why he’s so dead set against testifying, though.

I'd wait for a more reliable source before believing this.

[#-3]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Well this is some good news at least.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1586055509723209729

But I thought it was the fiscal conservativeness of the UPC that balanced Albertas budget? Hot did the Socialist lib-tard Justin manage to do it too.

It's almost like the UPC aren't fiscal conservatives and just hit a lucky streak with macroeconomic factors that Canada is riding too.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Well this is some good news at least.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1586055509723209729

From the same article.

In its monthly fiscal monitor, the finance department says the result for the April-to-August period compared with a deficit of $57.2 billion for the same time last year.

Public debt charges totalled nearly $14.8 billion for the period, up from nearly $9.7 billion.

So they spent like drunken sailors on non-COVID support programs for 2 years, racked up a ####load of debt, and are now paying 30%+ each month to service that debt, and somehow have now managed to spent $57 billion less this year in the same period, and that all equals good news.

I guess when your comparing a dumpster fire to the Oilers, one would take the dumpster fire instead.

[calgarygeologist]

Originally Posted by #-3

But I thought it was the fiscal conservativeness of the UPC that balanced Albertas budget? Hot did the Socialist lib-tard Justin manage to do it too.

It's almost like the UPC aren't fiscal conservatives and just hit a lucky streak with macroeconomic factors that Canada is riding too.

I'm pretty sure the budget balanced itself and Justin wouldn't know how it actually happened.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Azure

From the same article.



So they spent like drunken sailors on non-COVID support programs for 2 years, racked up a ####load of debt, and are now paying 30%+ each month to service that debt, and somehow have now managed to spent $57 billion less this year in the same period, and that all equals good news.

I guess when your comparing a dumpster fire to the Oilers, one would take the dumpster fire instead.

What were the non-Covid support programs?

[Doctorfever]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

What were the non-Covid support programs?

WE charity is one

[#-3]

Originally Posted by calgarygeologist

I'm pretty sure the budget balanced itself and Justin wouldn't know how it actually happened.

I was mocking people who think conservatives offer more sound economic policy in spite of all the evidence, then laud global macro economic factors as the evidence. Hence the green text.

I think Prime Minister Trudeaus policies had relatively little to do with it too, but I also don't think they hurt much either.

[OldDutch]

Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

... wait ... did the budget just. ... balance itself?

Spoiler!

I'll see myself out

No

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Aarongavey

What were the non-Covid support programs?

Since March 2020, the federal government has spent or planned to spend $576 billion in new measures — but more than a third, $204.5 billion, of this spending has nothing to do with the COVID-19 pandemic according to an analysis by the Parliamentary Budget Officer (PBO).

https://nationalpost.com/news/politi...mic-pbo-report

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Azure

https://nationalpost.com/news/politi...mic-pbo-report

To be fair, the majority of that was budgeted (the rest included in updates) and qualifying all of it as “support programs” is a bit disingenuous. Either way, a spending reduction against the budget is a good thing, no? Is that not what people want?

[Roughneck]

If reduced spending isn't a legitimate path to budget balancing, what exactly are people asking for?

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

To be fair, the majority of that was budgeted (the rest included in updates) and qualifying all of it as “support programs” is a bit disingenuous.

A bit disingenuous? For one thing, it's not over 2 years, as Azure claims. that figure is based on 7 fiscal years from 2020 to 2027.

And those "non-COVID support programs" are the sum total of all new spending in the budgets, which includes things like:

-$23B in additional spending on the military
-tens of billions of dollars to support industries
-billions in infrastructure spending
-billions in compensation to residential school survivors
-natural disaster recovery costs from what happened last fall in BC.


That doesn't even get into the absurdity of trying to frame non-COVID spending (which is obviously a far more productive thing to spend money on) as somehow a bad thing.

[DFO]

We can't let facts get in the way of some good Trudeau outrage