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Old 10-16-2014, 05:33 PM   #2681
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On the starseed, a mason pair is almost always town according to mafiascum, but we have no confirmation of that.

I would strongly support killing him on the basis of confirming his partner as town.
It's been said before, but I feel like it should be said again, we cannot just kill for potential information if there is a feeling that someone is town. Lynches and kills need to be directed at those we think are mafia.
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Old 10-16-2014, 05:35 PM   #2682
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Rathji are you still around? Can I ask you how you feel about using your kill on formulate? He is high up on a bunch of people's suspicion lists, something seems not right with him.
In dentist chair now.

If you have connections to other players, I am open to considering all options. I figure the strongest ties will make the best kill.
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Old 10-16-2014, 05:36 PM   #2683
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It's been said before, but I feel like it should be said again, we cannot just kill for potential information if there is a feeling that someone is town. Lynches and kills need to be directed at those we think are mafia.
Kill for suspicion and for info?
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Old 10-16-2014, 05:37 PM   #2684
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I went back and read most of the thread from the beginning. I keep coming back to this post: http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showpos...&postcount=273

Pika has thought throughout this game that other characters have abilities that are linked to their character. With Timbo showing that his power was related to his character, and Drury's was as well, I think there is more to it than randomness. GGG was insistent that they weren't related, and this morning after I revealed my role actions, wanted to know who it was and what it was called, even though I had said I wasn't giving out that information yet.

Pika should have trusted ECF more than he did. He tried to poison GGG, and has been right on almost every thought he had in the game. I'm going to build on these thoughts and try and avenge ECF's death, when I could have protected him last night.

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Go back to the post where Mazrim says they aren't neccessarily linked and that you can shoehorn any ability into any character.

For example Mr. Game and Watch's bucket ability is a modified version of the hider. Your could have made that same bucket ability the cop, watcher, doctor, roleblocker etc without changing the name of the ability just a slight change to the flavour. This is why revealing our charactors didn't matter.

Why I asked you what your role is called is that I believe you are possibly lying as all of a sudden you got investigative powers when before you were just an enabler. So I wanted the name of your power to see if it is consistant with your character. If you are lying about your power you now need to lie about its name and how it works. As your lies compound its easier for you to make mistakes.

I still would like to know the name of your power. You have disclosed everything else about it. Apparently you can clone the power you enable and then use it the next night. Why withhold the name. Is it because you can't come up with a way to connect it to your charactor?
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Old 10-16-2014, 05:38 PM   #2685
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In dentist chair now.

If you have connections to other players, I am open to considering all options. I figure the strongest ties will make the best kill.
I have nothing concrete, only a hunch but if you aren't willing to kill him then I won't want to say any more.
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Old 10-16-2014, 05:40 PM   #2686
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Is this a dumb question? If it was a ####### game, would Mazrim admit it?

Could there only be 2 mafia? And they are the leaders of the E/G. But what they are doing is giving us powers to use on each other until we're all dead? It sure would help to know the numbers we're playing with...

I have pro's and con's to almost everyone. Just when I think I have someone pegged as mafia, they say/do something that makes me question my decision

I think I need to figure out who would tell me the most with their flip either way... town or mafia. But when I look at people that have been killed already, I look at who killed them and who defended them, but with so many crossovers and people that I figure are town have voted for them, it doesn't jive.

Rathji said he was going to be gaming tonight and would likely post his day kill tomorrow.
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I am going to consider all options. Everyone should post a set of players they consider linked, with post quotes if possible.

I want this to break the game open for us.
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I am going to consider all options. Everyone should post a set of players they consider linked, with post quotes if possible.

I want this to break the game open for us.
I think I have a pretty good plan, however I only feel strongly enough to use it on formulate. i don't know if he is scum or serial killer or what, but I don't have a good feeling about him.

I've thought about this While the lad test back and forth was going on and I think now is the time to use my one shot power. It's called pull the master sword (thanks Mazrim, doesn't sound sexual at all) and I have the power to rewind time to the beginning of today, HOWEVER it also says it's side effects are unknown.

I propose you kill formulate, and if he flips town I rewind time to the start of today, that way you get your kill back and formulate would be alive still. Now I assume something bad will happen, which is why I am only really comfortable using it on formulate at this time.
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Old 10-16-2014, 06:02 PM   #2689
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Go back to the post where Mazrim says they aren't neccessarily linked and that you can shoehorn any ability into any character.

For example Mr. Game and Watch's bucket ability is a modified version of the hider. Your could have made that same bucket ability the cop, watcher, doctor, roleblocker etc without changing the name of the ability just a slight change to the flavour. This is why revealing our charactors didn't matter.

Why I asked you what your role is called is that I believe you are possibly lying as all of a sudden you got investigative powers when before you were just an enabler. So I wanted the name of your power to see if it is consistant with your character. If you are lying about your power you now need to lie about its name and how it works. As your lies compound its easier for you to make mistakes.

I still would like to know the name of your power. You have disclosed everything else about it. Apparently you can clone the power you enable and then use it the next night. Why withhold the name. Is it because you can't come up with a way to connect it to your charactor?
I never once said I could clone it, nor did I say I had investigative powers. I did say I used my one shot doctor on wood last night. Pika sees that wood is still here, so hopefully it worked, and wasn't a wasted effort that could have been used on ECF.
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I am going to consider all options. Everyone should post a set of players they consider linked, with post quotes if possible.

I want this to break the game open for us.
Starseed, Girlysports, Puxlut and Formulate.

Puxlut followed Starseed around in votes yesterday, defends him quite a bit against me. Girlysports stayed out of it completely and Formulate was okay with the lynch but wanted to give more time. More time resulted in a change of the votes.

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The only way I see of getting truly concrete proof would be a lynch.

I'm without desktop access for the duration of the long weekend, and will be without the required combination of internees connectivity, time and sobriety for the duration as well. I assume both will be the case for a decent number of posters.

I won't be bringing the starseed hammer yet, and while I can't ask for the game to be paused, it would be nice to get a chance to review everything starting Monday night.
Then he votes for Starseed right after it became near obvious the vote for him failed.
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The fact that Starseed was pushing basically to the brink, plans were discussed about how best to prove his and his partner's alignment, then the bus magically changed lanes is very suspect in my eyes. Perhaps Timbo was just used as the perfect distraction?

There have been plenty of reasons to lynch starseed with varying degrees of merit in my eyes, but the most important for me right now is that of all the players to hypothetically turn out to be mafia, starseed would surprise me the least.

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That would mean none of the mafia voted for Starseed when he was near death which might be a little too obvious but they all seemed to have different tactics.


I defended Timbo, I wasn't shy about it. Drury18 defending him a bit better. :P I know we don't have a connection, but I think from an outside perspective it could easily seem like it.

And I just realized hockeyguy's post. Oh boy.
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Old 10-16-2014, 06:07 PM   #2691
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I think I have a pretty good plan, however I only feel strongly enough to use it on formulate. i don't know if he is scum or serial killer or what, but I don't have a good feeling about him.

I've thought about this While the lad test back and forth was going on and I think now is the time to use my one shot power. It's called pull the master sword (thanks Mazrim, doesn't sound sexual at all) and I have the power to rewind time to the beginning of today, HOWEVER it also says it's side effects are unknown.

I propose you kill formulate, and if he flips town I rewind time to the start of today, that way you get your kill back and formulate would be alive still. Now I assume something bad will happen, which is why I am only really comfortable using it on formulate at this time.
Awesome

I'm good with this plan. Do you think we could learn more from a starseed kill and (maybe) revival? Or maybe GGG even, though I think they're both town already
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Wood, rathji can't use his kill on guardians.
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Yeah I just remembered that as soon as i entered it. Ignore me
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It's a good plan, and confirms another townie IMO. That's a town power

We don't need to worry about if it fails or is misdirected either, we can rewind (if I understand the power correctly)
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I would love to be reborn with weird powers as a side effect. I'd be happy to be part of this science experiment.
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Wood, rathji can't use his kill on guardians.
Might be the same way the early invites said that the information couldn't be revealed though.

I'm not so sure the invites are exactly honest.

I'm fine with the plan, but Rathji might want to see if Mazrim will clarify if it can be used on Guardians for round 2?
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It's a good plan, and confirms another townie IMO. That's a town power

We don't need to worry about if it fails or is misdirected either, we can rewind (if I understand the power correctly)
Yes, I can rewind to the beginning of the day (day 4)
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My thought would be for Starseed to reveal his partner. We kill the partner, rewind the day, get two confirmed townies out of it.
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My thought would be for Starseed to reveal his partner. We kill the partner, rewind the day, get two confirmed townies out of it.
That's a waste of my power and rathj's kill. I think formulate is either scum or the killer.
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My thought would be for Starseed to reveal his partner. We kill the partner, rewind the day, get two confirmed townies out of it.
I like this too
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