2025/2026 Season Trade Rumours and Speculation Thread

[Jason14h]

It’s probably better then 50/50 Coleman has played his last game with the team

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by Funkhouser

Sounds like the rebiggle is falling apart and players are asking to jump ship.

I expect the team to be demoralized going forward and us to unload more vets over the next six months than planned.

Kadri
Coleman
Hanley?
Paschal?
Frost?
Whitecloud?
Who else?

Id be surprised to see Frost go unless he was requesting a trade. He can be a pseudo top 6 Center right through the rebuild then settle into a 3rd line roll after.

[Monahammer]

I still wonder if you could get Philly to trade michkov. Hes dying under tocchet.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by Fan69

If he asks out then obviously a decision is made but i struggle with Weegs and Whitecloud. I actually think whitecloud might return more but he is the younger player and more flexible contractually which would benefit the club more.

However Weegs has been a rock for us since the trade and likes it here st a decent contract. Tough call.

We hung onto Ras too long and as a result, limited our return. While we like players and they like playing here, we have to work with them and get a return for the player while they have value.

I hope Conny learned from the andersson situation and will be a little more ruthless when dealing with players who don’t fit our contending zone. It’s tough, but he’s responsible for the direction of the organization, not players feelings.

Weegar does have a ntc, so untimely he holds the hammer until the clause changes to a modified no trade. But Conny can be honest with the player as to how they don’t fit long term and work with the player to find a mutually beneficial outcome with a trade to a team he will accept and give us the assets that will align with when we are able to contend again.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

We hung onto Ras too long and as a result, limited our return. While we like players and they like playing here, we have to work with them and get a return for the player while they have value.

I hope Conny learned from the andersson situation and will be a little more ruthless when dealing with players who don’t fit our contending zone. It’s tough, but he’s responsible for the direction of the organization, not players feelings.

Weegar does have a ntc, so untimely he holds the hammer until the clause changes to a modified no trade. But Conny can be honest with the player as to how they don’t fit long term and work with the player to find a mutually beneficial outcome with a trade to a team he will accept and give us the assets that will align with when we are able to contend again.

If you view the return as "limited", then your view makes sense.

I think the return is outstanding myself....rentals usually dont garner 3 legit pieces like that unless they are very one of the best at their position.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

We hung onto Ras too long and as a result, limited our return. While we like players and they like playing here, we have to work with them and get a return for the player while they have value.

I hope Conny learned from the andersson situation and will be a little more ruthless when dealing with players who don’t fit our contending zone. It’s tough, but he’s responsible for the direction of the organization, not players feelings.

Weegar does have a ntc, so untimely he holds the hammer until the clause changes to a modified no trade. But Conny can be honest with the player as to how they don’t fit long term and work with the player to find a mutually beneficial outcome with a trade to a team he will accept and give us the assets that will align with when we are able to contend again.

debatable...guy was terrible last year, we also don't know what the full return is yet

You trade Whitecloud and Vegas wins the cup its looking like a grand slam. Or as you say trade Weegar with Whitecloud taking his role

[blankall]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

We hung onto Ras too long and as a result, limited our return. While we like players and they like playing here, we have to work with them and get a return for the player while they have value.

I hope Conny learned from the andersson situation and will be a little more ruthless when dealing with players who don’t fit our contending zone. It’s tough, but he’s responsible for the direction of the organization, not players feelings.

Weegar does have a ntc, so untimely he holds the hammer until the clause changes to a modified no trade. But Conny can be honest with the player as to how they don’t fit long term and work with the player to find a mutually beneficial outcome with a trade to a team he will accept and give us the assets that will align with when we are able to contend again.

Huh? The Flames has a trade set up with LA, but Andersson refused to extend with them. The Flames held onto Andersson until he was on a hot streak and other teams started bidding, knowing that he might be a rental. Andersson was awful last year, and no one was paying big for him as a rental.

Andersson limited his own trade value by not agreeing to extend with teams. The trade value the Flames ended up getting was excellent given the circumstances.

[The Original FFIV]

Originally Posted by blankall

Huh? The Flames has a trade set up with LA, but Andersson refused to extend with them. The Flames held onto Andersson until he was on a hot streak and other teams started bidding, knowing that he might be a rental. Andersson was awful last year, and no one was paying big for him as a rental.

Andersson limited his own trade value by not agreeing to extend with teams. The trade value the Flames ended up getting was excellent given the circumstances.

Agree to disagree. We painted ourselves into a corner. Had we dealt him last year (or the previous year), teams would have had him under team control for a longer time and more playoff runs. Conny made chicken salad out of chicken poop but he put himself in that position. Not trying to relitigate the Andersen trade, point being Conny needs to put himself in a position where he isn’t painted into a corner on a declining asset.

[Enoch Root]

We don't know what the return might have looked like last year, but there was speculation that the 'huge' offer from LA was a 1st and a 2nd.

And it's not like Andersson had a great season, last year. So it's hard to imagine any return better than what they got.

I keep going back to: at the outset of all this, if someone said the Flames would get a 1st + 2nd + a solid player like Whitecloud, almost everyone would have said that would be great. Many would have said there is no way they'll get that

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

Agree to disagree. We painted ourselves into a corner. Had we dealt him last year (or the previous year), teams would have had him under team control for a longer time and more playoff runs. Conny made chicken salad out of chicken poop but he put himself in that position. Not trying to relitigate the Andersen trade, point being Conny needs to put himself in a position where he isn’t painted into a corner on a declining asset.

Conroy wasn't painted into a corner. He made a calculated decision to keep Andersson last season and go for the playoffs. At the time it was the right call and it was heartbreaking that the team lost the playoff spot.

As for this season, it certainly would have been better for the Flames if Andersson had been willing to participate in a Sign & Trade, but he didn't and there is nothing a GM can do about that.

While I am upset with the result of trading Andersson to Vegas, I do see a path forward where the trade could work out for the Flames.

Without knowing the offers last season or what the alternative "rental" offers were for Andersson this season, it is impossible to know if Conroy made a mistake or has a lesson to learn.

As for Weegar, you already acknowledged that he has a full NTC, so the conversation really ends there. Conroy does not need to "learn the lesson" of trying to override player's agreed upon contracts and fans definitely do not need to learn to expect that bad behaviour.

If Weegar doesn't want to be traded, he won't. As fans our expectation should be that he won't be traded as long as he has a full NTC. How can Conroy possible get full value for Weegar when he has the control to pick which team he is going to???

Trading Whitecloud has no such baggage and Conroy can hold a bidding war for him and it should go much faster because there are zero extra considerations. No trade clauses. No need to fuss a contract extension. Just put him on the block and trade him.

Keep Weegar to lead and mentor the D group (and keep the team above the salary floor).

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

We don't know what the return might have looked like last year, but there was speculation that the 'huge' offer from LA was a 1st and a 2nd.

And it's not like Andersson had a great season, last year. So it's hard to imagine any return better than what they got.

I keep going back to: at the outset of all this, if someone said the Flames would get a 1st + 2nd + a solid player like Whitecloud, almost everyone would have said that would be great. Many would have said there is no way they'll get that

Ya by waiting Conroy ensured that he could get a much bigger return than he would have gotten in the summer.

[Macindoc]

Originally Posted by The Original FFIV

Agree to disagree. We painted ourselves into a corner. Had we dealt him last year (or the previous year), teams would have had him under team control for a longer time and more playoff runs. Conny made chicken salad out of chicken poop but he put himself in that position. Not trying to relitigate the Andersen trade, point being Conny needs to put himself in a position where he isn’t painted into a corner on a declining asset.

The way Andersson was playing last season, he would have been closer to a cap dump in terms of trade value. I suspect some posters on here would have taken a 2nd in exchange for him with 50% retention.

[PepsiFree]

Yeah, hard to argue the Flames were better off trading Andersson before when he went for similar returns value wise as Jones and Hertl with a fraction of the retention.

Term can be a benefit but it can also be a detriment, especially if the player is on a down season vs an up season.

He may have gotten more. He very realistically could also have gone for less. Little sense in talking like one is a sure thing over the other.

Similar to re-litigating the Gaudreau contract situation in a way. It’s easy to say Treliving should have just signed him when he was ready to stay, of course it made sense in retrospect because everyone would have been happier with him at 10.5 over Huberdeau. But he wasn’t worth anything close to that at the time.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

We don't know what the return might have looked like last year, but there was speculation that the 'huge' offer from LA was a 1st and a 2nd.

And it's not like Andersson had a great season, last year. So it's hard to imagine any return better than what they got.

I keep going back to: at the outset of all this, if someone said the Flames would get a 1st + 2nd + a solid player like Whitecloud, almost everyone would have said that would be great. Many would have said there is no way they'll get that

The LA offer likely also included Carter George
Meh

[Macindoc]

Originally Posted by blankall

The flames seem more like they are at the point of a closing sale where a lot of the product is gone and people are picking at mostly empty shelves.

Kadri, Coleman, Whitecloud, and Weegar are still four of the best products on the market. Hardly leftovers.

[Ped]

LA badly needs a center, Byfield is their leading scorer there and he just hit his 30th point today, and Kopitar is retiring. The other two main centers have 16 points combined.

[GioforPM]

Wt

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

I still wonder if you could get Philly to trade michkov. Hes dying under tocchet.

And offer them what?


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[Harry Lime]

I'd take Turcotte (recovered from injury and now stuck with questionable role) , Ziemmer (future power winger) and a 1st from LA for Kadri.

That would be great, if Kadri likes LA.

[Muta]

I wonder if out of courtesy, you ask Backlund if he would like an opportunity on a competitor. A legit defensive centre having a great year on a bad team, consistent, brings terrific leadership and poise. I know the idea is to have him retire here, but for discussion purposes... you could likely get a decent return for him. He'd be an amazing add onto literally all the contenders right now.