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Old 01-31-2026, 11:19 AM   #26641
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No they arent....teams that are "solid on most fronts" simply dont find themselves with the second worst record in the entire league well over half way through the season.

This is a very poorly constructed hockey team with many holes to fix and the results are proof of this.

This is why I am flabergasted that some still wont admit this club is in a full out rebuild and have been for some time....regardless of the team not releasing a "letter" to the fans stating as much.

Unless you have superstar wingers with our center depth relying on two 35 year olds of course the wings aren’t having a great time? Especially when one of the 35 year olds has given up on the season? This same team almost made the playoffs last year.

Also not sure where i said anything about not wanting to rebuild i have literally been screaming for it. My point more so was if we get those centers you already have a good start to the other components.

It seems like in some evaluations what we already have isnt included because we dont have a superstar projection in our ranks. The base of a good team is already in place and we have more assets coming its center ice where the team drowns.
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Old 01-31-2026, 11:22 AM   #26642
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Old 01-31-2026, 11:25 AM   #26643
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I think they meant that in two years, when the new building opens, the rebuild is solid on most fronts. At least that's how I took it.
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The Flames?

No they arent....teams that are "solid on most fronts" simply dont find themselves with the second worst record in the entire league well over half way through the season.

This is a very poorly constructed hockey team with many holes to fix and the results are proof of this.

This is why I am flabergasted that some still wont admit this club is in a full out rebuild and have been for some time....regardless of the team not releasing a "letter" to the fans stating as much.
I agree with this post completely. This team is not close to being solid on most fronts or ready to compete in a couple years.

Remember, this team was bottom 5 bad all year with Andersson.

I feel like I'm living in an alternate reality from some other posts.
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Old 01-31-2026, 11:33 AM   #26647
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Dont agree with you here.

In two years when the building opens klapka will be a third year player. Bru 2 to 3rd. Zary will have four years in the league. They wont be rookies. Expecting none of them to progress isnt rational nor will they be getting used to the league at that point.

Whos says by the time the building opens gridin isnt a top six? Who says Coronato isnt going to get better hes already scored near thirty? Honzek has made the team this year it looks like why cant he progress ? What if we add a Mckenna or a Stenberg to what we have already this year?

I know we all had Wytenbach leading college scorers is he a write off ?
Put even one young top six center on this team it will completely change the dynamics and direction if the team moving forward.

The team is solid on most fronts, best on the wing, good on defence, good in goal, poor to horrybla in the center.
I still think Conroys main goal is to get a young center thats already in the league ( Shane ?)
I’m not sure where you are going with this.

You say you don’t agree and then go on to state examples of exactly what I am saying.

Development is not a linear curve. What the poster said is that is Gridin and Parekh don’t improve next year (that, btw, in itself is a wildly blanket statement) they will be depth players. That’s not a very well informed take. Parekh, in particular, could take years to hit his potential and it’s likely going to have its ups and downs.

Look no further than noted ‘depth’ player Nathan MacKinnon’s first 5 years in the league.

Laughable take.
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I agree with this post completely. This team is not close to being solid on most fronts or ready to compete in a couple years.

Remember, this team was bottom 5 bad all year with Andersson.

I feel like I'm living in an alternate reality from some other posts.
Do they have good prospects in goal, defence and wing? Yes or no.
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Do they have good prospects in goal, defence and wing? Yes or no.
I mean, sure. But solid on paper doesn't mean they all pan out, and does not mean we are suddenly going to be a good team in a year or 2.
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I mean, sure. But solid on paper doesn't mean they all pan out, and does not mean we are suddenly going to be a good team in a year or 2.
Solid on paper was all that was being said. But it's good to see you realize that there are no guarantees, even with top draft picks.

I doubt they will be a "good" team in two years. But they might be a good product.
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I think its a pretty long road ahead. The flames mgmt were the last ones to see how bad the team is, beyond parekh, we have lots of decent prospects but I dont see any big stars personally. If they had it to do all over again i am sure they would have gotten a bit more aggressive earlier as they will surely be taking some beatings the first year in the new building.

But personally I enjoy watching a rebuild anyway. I do wish they would have torn it down about a year and a half earlier but it will be fun now that we are finally on the train. I really enjoy watching the younger talented players coming into the league even when they turn out more Daniel Tkcazuk than Matthew.

This stage the flames are at reminds me so much of the beginning of the last rebuild. We really just had baertschi to get excited about and were headed into the monahan draft about to get our first really high pick. Parekh is our baertshi right now and this hone stretch could be critical. That year they won a lot of meaningless games and missed barkov and mackinnon which i think was the difference between them winning a cup with that team vs being a division winner. But they did find Johnny late and thats going to be hard to replicate.

You hope this go round that parekh turns out to be a better starting piece than baertshi and we draft higher than 6th. It definately feels like everyone is more on the same page here too. I can remember coming down that stretch and the self appointed forum policemen just laying into people hoping for losses, there were a lot of people who didn't care about higher picks on principle and this go round you dont see that everyone knows it is needed
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I’m not sure where you are going with this.

You say you don’t agree and then go on to state examples of exactly what I am saying.

Development is not a linear curve. What the poster said is that is Gridin and Parekh don’t improve next year (that, btw, in itself is a wildly blanket statement) they will be depth players. That’s not a very well informed take. Parekh, in particular, could take years to hit his potential and it’s likely going to have its ups and downs.

Look no further than noted ‘depth’ player Nathan MacKinnon’s first 5 years in the league.

Laughable take.

We have multiple young players in the team already. In two years when the building opens Parekh, Bru, Zary,Honzek,Gridin, Wolf, Kuz will all be contributing members of the team on the ice? They wont be rookies. They will have experienced some growth. They will be bolstered by some vets and first and second year players coming in. If we pick top three this year we could have another star player entering?

Of course progress isnt linear that was entirely my point. My point was the foundation if the team is already in place and some of them already have multiple years in the league. Bahl isnt 19 neither is Kuz. Do you expect them not to be here when the new building opens?

In two years we will have multiple players in the mid 20’s most of them homegrown with experience in the league. Find a young top six center and stick it with this group it completely changes what the team looks like and i think that’s exactly Conroys plan.

Oh and im not sure why the condescension is necessary exactly?
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We have multiple young players in the team already. In two years when the building opens Parekh, Bru, Zary,Honzek,Gridin, Wolf, Kuz will all be contributing members of the team on the ice? They wont be rookies. They will have experienced some growth. They will be bolstered by some vets and first and second year players coming in. If we pick top three this year we could have another star player entering?

Of course progress isnt linear that was entirely my point. My point was the foundation if the team is already in place and some of them already have multiple years in the league. Bahl isnt 19 neither is Kuz. Do you expect them not to be here when the new building opens?

In two years we will have multiple players in the mid 20’s most of them homegrown with experience in the league. Find a young top six center and stick it with this group it completely changes what the team looks like and i think that’s exactly Conroys plan.

Oh and im not sure why the condescension is necessary exactly?
Laughable take was directed at the other poster.

I agree with you.
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Sounds like the rebiggle is falling apart and players are asking to jump ship.

I expect the team to be demoralized going forward and us to unload more vets over the next six months than planned.

Kadri
Coleman
Hanley?
Paschal?
Frost?
Whitecloud?
Who else?
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Sounds like the rebiggle is falling apart and players are asking to jump ship.

I expect the team to be demoralized going forward and us to unload more vets over the next six months than planned.

Kadri
Coleman
Hanley?
Paschal?
Frost?
Whitecloud?
Who else?

I dont think your wrong. I think by game 30 most if the vets realized things were not going to get substantially better. Kadri looks checked out. Dont think it would be surprising if a few others didnt also.
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Flames are burning it to the ground.
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Old 01-31-2026, 12:28 PM   #26659
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Yesterday was better than today but today is better than tomorrow! No sense holding on to grief if they are finally making the right choice.

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Sounds like the rebiggle is falling apart and players are asking to jump ship.

I expect the team to be demoralized going forward and us to unload more vets over the next six months than planned.

Kadri
Coleman
Hanley?
Paschal?
Frost?
Whitecloud?
Who else?
Well they have been burning it to the ground for awhile now, have done nothing to improve the team since Conroy joined and have just moved out players for picks and prospects. Any futures trades that replicate the previous 8 trades will just be more of the same.
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