03-13-2024, 07:49 PM
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#2641
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slava
The city voted down the idea of a plebiscite for the city-wide rezoning today and they’ll meet on April 20.
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Of course they did.
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03-13-2024, 08:07 PM
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#2642
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slava
The city voted down the idea of a plebiscite for the city-wide rezoning today and they’ll meet on April 20.
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Excellent voting on zoning is stupid.
Unless the question is I’m in favour of upzoning versus I’m not in favour of upzoning and a corresponds additional tax increase each to support future sprawl.
If you don’t understand the consequences of sprawl you can’t make an informed decision.
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03-13-2024, 08:39 PM
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#2643
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GGG
Excellent voting on zoning is stupid.
Unless the question is I’m in favour of upzoning versus I’m not in favour of upzoning and a corresponds additional tax increase each to support future sprawl.
If you don’t understand the consequences of sprawl you can’t make an informed decision.
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Yeah, why let people impacted by this have input?
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03-13-2024, 08:41 PM
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#2644
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Originally Posted by Slava
Yeah, why let people impacted by this have input?
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You did. You voted for someone to represent you. That’s your input.
Plebiscites are almost always stupid. I want to say always, but there’s probably like one out of forty thousand examples where it wasn’t stupid, and I don’t want to take anything away from that one example.
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03-13-2024, 08:41 PM
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#2645
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Every single city decision should go to plebiscite. Why even have councilors that we vote in?
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03-13-2024, 08:50 PM
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#2646
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Well truthfully, I do think that plebiscites aren’t great. But the thing is, this is a sweeping change that will impact what is most people’s largest investment (in the context of a lot of their net worth in their home, not an investment per se). I think that makes this different than whether we should have fluoride in the water or host an Olympics.
And, I don’t buy the line of thought that people could campaign against this, ergo we shouldn’t have a plebiscite. That was put forward by Walcott today, and I just don’t see that as a valid argument against a plebiscite. Make your case for why we should have this sweeping rezoning and convince the voters that this is the best way forward.
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03-13-2024, 09:52 PM
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#2647
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: the middle
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How will sweeping zoning affect what you do with your home?
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03-13-2024, 10:00 PM
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#2648
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First Line Centre
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The Liberal Government brings in an inordinate number of immigrants, mainly because they vote Liberal, causing a housing crisis. Then they bribe our mayor and council to f*** up our zoning regulations to fix the problem they created.
Wide open zoning with an anything anywhere policy has led to significant problems, and will ultimately degrade many of our best communities. A drive through the areas in the city, where it has taken place over the past decade, will show what to expect.
A person should have some control over what happens next to his house. If you think the bureaucrats at city hall will look after your best interest...think again.
Last edited by flamesfever; 03-13-2024 at 11:14 PM.
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03-13-2024, 10:07 PM
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#2649
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: the middle
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What are the best communities?
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03-13-2024, 10:10 PM
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#2650
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First Line Centre
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roughneck
What are the best communities?
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Wildwood, Glendale, Westgate to name a few.
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03-13-2024, 10:16 PM
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#2651
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: the middle
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I’m not even sure those crack the Top 10 SW neighborhoods.
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03-13-2024, 10:22 PM
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#2652
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First Line Centre
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nm
Last edited by flamesfever; 03-13-2024 at 11:12 PM.
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03-13-2024, 10:29 PM
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#2653
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First Line Centre
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Please flamesfever, regale us with how exactly "wide open zoning with an anything anywhere policy" has "degraded" neighbourhoods.
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03-13-2024, 10:36 PM
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#2654
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Originally Posted by timun
Please flamesfever, regale us with how exactly "wide open zoning with an anything anywhere policy" has "degraded" neighbourhoods.
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He already told you what he thinks: immigrants.
The mysterious, nefarious immigrants that come from more conservative countries than Canada but still won’t vote Conservative.
Man just hates immigrants.
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03-13-2024, 10:46 PM
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#2655
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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Turn up the good, turn down the suck!
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03-13-2024, 10:47 PM
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#2656
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: the middle
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timun
Please flamesfever, regale us with how exactly "wide open zoning with an anything anywhere policy" has "degraded" neighbourhoods.
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Nobody wants to live in neighbourhoods like that, they’re too busy.
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03-13-2024, 10:54 PM
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#2657
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First Line Centre
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nm
Last edited by flamesfever; 03-13-2024 at 11:13 PM.
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03-13-2024, 11:12 PM
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#2658
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Somewhere down the crazy river.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Roughneck
Nobody wants to live in neighbourhoods like that, they’re too busy.
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Just hold out and keep your single family home then. Eventually it will be more sought after in a high density neighborhood and then you can sell it and buy a mansion in Cancun or something. I don’t see the down-side.
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03-13-2024, 11:15 PM
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#2659
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Somewhere down the crazy river.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slava
Yeah, why let people impacted by this have input?
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The problem is though, it wouldn’t be the people impacted unless you plan on having neighborhood level plebiscites.
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03-13-2024, 11:17 PM
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#2660
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flamesfever
Wildwood, Glendale, Westgate to name a few.
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Are these in Phoenix?
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