Explosion at the Boston Marathon

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by Tinordi

Or unless you think we're all so mindlessly impressionable that a picture of a terrorist will somehow make us think that it's "cool" to bomb? Give me a break, what a parochial deluded view of society.

Well I'm glad to see you're not a lemming - you must be that strong, independent type that we all aspire to.

Young adults aged 17-30 usually read Rolling Stone - this is their target demographic. It is teenagers and young adults that are most impressionable to believe in extremist thinking, and if you've ever read any al-Qaeda interview transcripts or flipped through Inspire, al-Qaeda's magazine, their is so much glorification going on its not even funny. Check out the growing number of domestic extremists in Western countries that are subject to near infinite channels of media and propaganda - Internet, magazines, TV, books, etc.

Just because he's not wearing army fatigues and a turban doesn't mean he's not being glorified.

I have been involved in graduate-level academia on how people get wrapped up in terrorism and extremist activities. Many are looking for attention and that "holy grail" of being loved and wanted, hence joining groups that appear to have strong emotional, philosophical and religious bonds.

But don't worry, nobody can possible be easily impressionable. Not in this day and age.

[united]

Apologies if already posted.

A disgruntled police photographer released some new photos:
http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/b...7/18/tsarnaev/

“As a professional law-enforcement officer of 25 years, I believe that the image that was portrayed by Rolling Stone magazine was an insult to any person who has every worn a uniform of any color or any police organization or military branch, and the family members who have ever lost a loved one serving in the line of duty. The truth is that glamorizing the face of terror is not just insulting to the family members of those killed in the line of duty, it also could be an incentive to those who may be unstable to do something to get their face on the cover of Rolling Stone magazine.

“I hope that the people who see these images will know that this was real. It was as real as it gets. This may have played out as a television show, but this was not a television show. Officer Dick Donohue almost gave his life. Officer Sean Collier did give his life. These were real people, with real lives, with real families. And to have this cover dropped into Boston was hurtful to their memories and their families. I know from first-hand conversations that this Rolling Stone cover has kept many of them up—again. It’s irritated the wounds that will never heal—again. There is nothing glamorous in bringing more pain to a grieving family.

“Photography is very simple, it’s very basic. It brings us back to the cave. An image like this on the cover of Rolling Stone, we see it instantly as being wrong. What Rolling Stone did was wrong. This guy is evil. This is the real Boston bomber. Not someone fluffed and buffed for the cover of Rolling Stone magazine."

Red dot on head

[MillerTime GFG]

Bump.

My parents leave on Tuesday for their third consecutive Boston Marathon. They're not scared in the least, and their sentiment is that 2013 is just giving them even more incentive to finish this year's race. That seems to be, for the most part, the feeling across the board for those that participated in 2013...they all want to come back.

I can't even imagine what the security is going to be like. Wishing them luck! My old man was able to finish 90 seconds before the explosion, but my Mum didn't quite finish.

[Bill Bumface]

Well, now that no one is allowed backpacks, clearly there is no way to plan any attacks anyway.

Just like now that you have to take your shoes off before boarding a plane to the US, they've eliminated any thread, and we're totally safe.

I refuse to go to a mall though. Way too many backpacks and shoes for my liking...

[red sky]

Are fanny packs allowed? Never been much of a backpack guy myself but need my trust fanny in big events like this.

[looooob]

Originally Posted by MillerTime GFG

Bump.

My parents leave on Tuesday for their third consecutive Boston Marathon. They're not scared in the least, and their sentiment is that 2013 is just giving them even more incentive to finish this year's race. That seems to be, for the most part, the feeling across the board for those that participated in 2013...they all want to come back.

I can't even imagine what the security is going to be like. Wishing them luck! My old man was able to finish 90 seconds before the explosion, but my Mum didn't quite finish.

I hope they have a great experience, my wife ran last year (and finished) and had registered to return this year, unfortunately due to other unrelated circumstances she won't be attending; which is disappointing as I'm sure the mood will be incredible

[MillerTime GFG]

Ya I think the level of excitement is going to be something else. I've got their bib numbers so I can track them on my second screen at work.

Hopefully your wife can return another year!

[Senator Clay Davis]

Unsurprisingly, he's guilty

Nearly two years after two pressure-cooker bombs ripped through a crowd of unsuspecting spectators near the finish line of the 2013 Boston Marathon, a federal jury found Dzhokhar Tsarnaev guilty for his role in the deadly attacks, which killed three and injured nearly 300.

The decision came a day and a half after seven women and five men began deliberations in the first phase of the trial and after 17 days of emotional and often gruesome testimony and evidence in the case. Jurors repeatedly saw horrific photos and videos of the bloody aftermath of the bombs. They also heard heart-wrenching testimony from survivors, including the father of the youngest victim of the attacks—8-year-old Martin Richard--whose body was literally blown apart by the second bomb.

Federal prosecutors painted Tsarnaev as a heartless killer who conspired with his older brother, Tamerlan, to maim and kill Americans in retaliation for the country's wars on Muslim countries overseas. "This was a cold, calculated terrorist act. This was intentional. It was bloodthirsty. It was to make a point," government prosecutor Aloke Chakravarty told jurors Monday. "It was to tell America that ‘We will not be terrorized by you anymore. We will terrorize you.'"

Tsarnaev faced 30 charges for his role in the bombings, the deadliest act of terrorism on American soil since September 11, 2001. He was also charged with shooting and killing Massachusetts Institute of Technology police officer Sean Collier days after the attacks and hours after the FBI released photos of him and his brother identifying them as suspects in the bombings. Though prosecutors acknowledged they were unsure which brother pulled the trigger, both were "equally guilty" of Collier's murder.

The verdict in the case wasn’t surprising. Judy Clarke, Tsarnaev’s attorney, admitted her client’s role in the attacks on day one of the trial, which began March 5, and reiterated it during closing arguments this week. “There is no excuse. No one is trying to make one,” Clarke told jurors Monday, calling the attack “inexcusable” and “senseless.”

But she cast Tsarnaev, now 21, as a troubled teenager who came under the sway of his radicalized older brother, whom the defense painted as the ringleader of the plot. They have argued Tamerlan Tsarnaev, who was killed during a shootout with police days after the bombings, plotted the attack and built the bombs—and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev merely followed.

“We don’t deny that Dzhokhar fully participated in the events,” Clarke said. “But, if not for Tamerlan, it wouldn’t have happened.”

http://news.yahoo.com/boston-maratho...161952135.html

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Unsurprisingly, he's guilty


http://news.yahoo.com/boston-maratho...161952135.html

But she cast Tsarnaev, now 21, as a troubled teenager who came under the sway of his radicalized older brother, whom the defense painted as the ringleader of the plot. They have argued Tamerlan Tsarnaev, who was killed during a shootout with police days after the bombings, plotted the attack and built the bombs—and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev merely followed.

“We don’t deny that Dzhokhar fully participated in the events,” Clarke said. “But, if not for Tamerlan, it wouldn’t have happened.”

Yes of course he was...

[nik-]

I totally buy that if it wasn't for the older brother he probably wouldn't have done it.

But he still did it.

[polak]

When is sentencing? The death penalty is one of the potential sentences.

[CaptainCrunch]

there was no doubt about the guilt, this whole trial was about casting blame on the dead older brother to avoid the death penalty.

I'm almost hoping that he receives a life sentence with no parole, let him rot in a 6 x 12 cell in a super max, isolated from everyone with only his own eventual guilt to keep him comfortable as he grows older one day at a time and envisions that theres no excape and when he dies his version of hell waits for him.

Meanwhile the world will move on and forget about him, he'll become a answer to a trivia question that nobody asks after a while.

[calgarybornnraised]

Bump. Death penalty it is. I was hoping for life in a super max.

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by calgarybornnraised

Bump. Death penalty it is. I was hoping for life in a super max.

Damn. This is probably what he wants. However in the long run this is better for the taxpayer and still sends a message. Here's hoping they choose some form of macabre execution, he deserves nothing less.

[FlamesAddiction]

But he seemed so repentant.

Spoiler!

I imagine there will be years of appeals. It took the State 4 years from sentencing to execution for Timothy McVeigh, and I think he waived most of his appeals except for the mandatory ones.

[nik-]

Life would have been better. Don't make this ####### a martyr.

[Coach]

These are the types of people where a "Battle Royale"-type prison system would be very helpful. Let them all kill each other, let us watch.... profit?

[Displaced Flames fan]

Martyrdom is not a punishment

[jeffporfirio]

I don't understand this.

These are the cases where Guatanamo or a prison in Barrow AK (71 Lat North) should be used.
Tiny little concrete cell, in scorching +40 heat and 100% humidity, or -50C.

Death penalty, means martyrdom for these idiots.

[FlamesAddiction]

If he wanted martyrdom though. he wouldn't have been trying to weasel out the death penalty. I don't think he is welcoming it by any means.