I suspect the government has back to work legislation prepared so the sequence of events will be Oct 6 stike, Oct 7 legislate back to work Oct 8 cancelation of all extra curriculars making all the genital inspections a complete waste of time.
I suspect the government has back to work legislation prepared so the sequence of events will be Oct 6 stike, Oct 7 legislate back to work Oct 8 cancelation of all extra curriculars making all the genital inspections a complete waste of time.
Not a complete waste. They'll still have mentally tormented a lot of kids over it. But when you remember the cruelty is the point, they'll still consider it a success.
^ I hope they tell the gov to pound sand if they legislate back to work.
If that happens they might bait Smith into saying that getting rid of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms is just one more reason for an independent Alberta. That’ll go over well.
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I really hope the teachers make a stand, a very vocal and if needed prolonged stand. I support them 100%
Yep, the class sizes need to be addressed it’s gotten ridiculous. It’s unfortunate our governments have so much leeway in what’s essential as a real strike would be over in a week.
Teachers are paid the third last working day of each month. Their annual salary is for 10 months of service but is divided into 12 payments. Third last day of June they receive 2 installments of pay, third last day of july they receive 1 installment, no pay in August, and then third last day of September they receive another installment.
One of the June pays and July pay are technically teacher payout, so if a teacher worked only part of the year, those paycheques would not be full paycheques.
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The talk is an imminent strike. The HSAA has always got the short end of the stick because the Nurses' union gets everything the province can offer. This deal was 12% over 4 years pay increase and many increases in benefits. That is 3% per year.... that is the highest per year increase my wife has seen in her 20+ years...
My wife is in that union. Its actually the union members voting against the negotiated tentative deal with the Government and the union that the union recommended they accept. Essentially a 60-40 split with 78% of the members voting.
Being Healthcare they will be deemed essential and legislated back to work.
I know that HSAA encompasses more disciplines than it used to. My wife is a Pharmacy Tech...that was one of the groups that used to have a different union. From her claims they are one group thst the government didnt want to give that kind of increase to. Supposedly there were offers for better increases for some groups and less for others. But the union wanted the same deal for all of them.
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Are you sure about that? I did a quick glance at the act, and I don't see provincial opt-outs mentioned, or how that would even work. I assume she's going to try to negotiate it so she has more money to pay for orphan well remediation and coal company settlements. This will turn into another divisive issue, of which the UCP are experts at, and their voters dumb enoguh to cheer on.
That's only in the interim until Sam Mraiche sets up a dental practice.
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Yep, the class sizes need to be addressed it’s gotten ridiculous. It’s unfortunate our governments have so much leeway in what’s essential as a real strike would be over in a week.
Isn’t the class size issue pretty complicated though? It’s not just “hire more teachers”, because you need somewhere to do that, and building schools takes time. In the past, one way the school boards were dealing with this was having kids bused to under-populated schools. There were complaints on that side of things because parents didn’t want their kids sitting on a school bus for 45 minutes. I’m not suggesting there is no solution there, but just that there’s not an easy, obvious one that is going to be quick and make people happy.
That's just because they've been doing nothing for decades, and are all out of ideas.
This isn't complicated. Build more schools, hire sufficient staff. It keeps getting worse because those are the two things they never do.
Why we don't build a standard school design across the province to reduce engineering and materials costs is beyond me. Yes, one size doesn't fit all, but you could easily make them in ways that allow for variances. Instead we have god knows how many different school boards all doing their own thing and efficiencies go out the window. There are ways to reduce costs, but they involve simplifying and consolidating our school system, and we must have one of the most disparate and complex in the developed world. For example, Canmore has three different school systems and six schools all over the valley. Busing costs and logistics alone eat up resources, and you don't have the flexibility to move teachers between school systems. Then you duplicate administration, and it all starts to get silly and expensive.
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That's just because they've been doing nothing for decades, and are all out of ideas.
This isn't complicated. Build more schools, hire sufficient staff. It keeps getting worse because those are the two things they never do.
Why we don't build a standard school design across the province to reduce engineering and materials costs is beyond me. Yes, one size doesn't fit all, but you could easily make them in ways that allow for variances. Instead we have god knows how many different school boards all doing their own thing and efficiencies go out the window. There are ways to reduce costs, but they involve simplifying and consolidating our school system, and we must have one of the most disparate and complex in the developed world. For example, Canmore has three different school systems and six schools all over the valley. Busing costs and logistics alone eat up resources, and you don't have the flexibility to move teachers between school systems. Then you duplicate administration, and it all starts to get silly and expensive.
The province has built 30 new schools and modernized more in the last decade. However, this isn't an overnight solution; you can't just build a school today to address the class size issue.
And yes, the systems could be consolidated and amalgamated from a resource perspective. Do you think the various unions would love that conversation? I have no doubt that an attempt to do this would face opposition.
I am not celebrating or applauding or advocating for the killing of other Nazi's. But, I also see no sadness in Charlie Kirk's death. It is not about Kirk having different opinions than me. He espoused extreme hate and extreme intolerance and violence to certain sections of the population. And, he made money from it. He was a Nazi. He was a christofacist. He was a POS. He was simply a bad, bad person. Everything about him and his ilk should never, never, never be accepted and tolerated.
Great, well 30 schools clearly wasn't close to enough, If you have a job to do, and only do 40% of it, does your boss just go "ah, well, you tried"? And I know it's not an overnight solution, the frustrating part is these are the same conversations we've had for 30 years. Maybe doing the same thing we've done for the past 30 isn't how we should proceed. Crazy out of the box thinking, I know.
I don't know about unions, but I suspect the Catholics would be pretty upset.
The province has built 30 new schools and modernized more in the last decade. However, this isn't an overnight solution; you can't just build a school today to address the class size issue.
And yes, the systems could be consolidated and amalgamated from a resource perspective. Do you think the various unions would love that conversation? I have no doubt that an attempt to do this would face opposition.
I don't know what you are arguing. Even the UCP have acknowledged that Alberta has not built enough schools to keep up with the population growth. That is why they announced that they are building 100 more schools.
The problem is their incompetence in even doing this. The Calgary and Edmonton boards have shovels ready projects that are just waiting on funding but the UCP are dicking around trying to figure out how to grift off of the deal (ie. giving buildings to charter schools).
You should listen to Nenshi's AMA that I linked a few pages back. Here is a re-post:
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Nenshi had an Education Ask Me Anything. It is a fairly long session (~80 minutes) but he hammers some great points about numerous things that the UCP are getting wrong and how they are attacking the education system.
He also solidly calls out the UCP for their culture war distractions. Every time they have something big that they do not want people to pay attention to, they will start a culture war to distract everyone.
Everyone should be furious about these new rules around girls in sports and how easily they can be weaponized against children.
Is that girl on the other team too good? Report her.
Is that girl on your team getting the better play time/position? Report her.
Did that girl stand up to your bullying? Report her.
