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Old 01-30-2026, 01:44 PM   #26541
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Speaking of our pals in Toronto, a funny sequence over the past week resulting in a spat between Treliving's Maple Leafs and The Athletic. This circus is amazing to watch.


- The Athletic notifies Treliving and the Maple Leafs of a forthcoming critical article and offers them a chance to comment. No response.
- The following day The Athletic again offers them a chance to comment. No response.
- For the third day in a row, The Athletic offers them a chance to comment. No response.
- The Athletic publishes the article.
- Treliving immediately throws a fit and calls The Athletic to defend against the content within, resulting in The Athletic publishing a follow-up Q&A with Treliving.

Why did the Maple Leafs eliminate a job designed to keep players healthy?

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Q& A Brad Treliving defends Maple Leafs’ approach to sports science

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Dreger on Barn Burner thinks Detroit could circle back with CGY on Weegar if he's available, and then said they also want a 2C (Kadri) and have the pieces to make a big splash.
ASP + Danielson + 1st for Kadri and Weegar
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I'm just not sure if Kadri would want to go to Detroit. Assuming we are disregarding his partial NTC and letting him pick destinations - might be moot. Same with Weegar.

Any chance Detroit likes Frost and Whitecloud package? I'd just take Danielson + future 2nd (I'd just take Danielson to be honest).
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ASP + Danielson + 1st for Kadri and Weegar
Probably have to retain on Kadri I would think.
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ASP + Danielson + 1st for Kadri and Weegar
They are not going to sell the farm

Unrealistic expectation any way
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Old 01-30-2026, 02:28 PM   #26546
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Will be interesting what Kadri gets. Points declining for the 2nd straight season, obvious issues with age and his GAF meter, but when he's on, he's very valuable. Just 1 goal and 4 points in his last 18 games, but 3 of those points in his last 6, and his stats are clearly affected by Calgary's offensive ineptitude.
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Kotkaniemi would instantly become a CP whipping boy.
Maybe - I think expectations would be low and he's not terrible IMO.

His underlyings the past 3 seasons:

CF%: 58.0%
HDCF%:51.3%
xGF%: 55.0%
GF%: 53.7%

Even his counting stats at 5v5 aren't that bad, he has better per 60 metrics than Dawson Mercer who this fan base always wants to add.
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I'm just not sure if Kadri would want to go to Detroit. Assuming we are disregarding his partial NTC and letting him pick destinations - might be moot. Same with Weegar.

Any chance Detroit likes Frost and Whitecloud package? I'd just take Danielson + future 2nd (I'd just take Danielson to be honest).
Doubt they put Danielson in a package for those two when they wouldn’t put him for Andersson
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Maybe - I think expectations would be low and he's not terrible IMO.

His underlyings the past 3 seasons:

CF%: 58.0%
HDCF%:51.3%
xGF%: 55.0%
GF%: 53.7%

Even his counting stats at 5v5 aren't that bad, he has better per 60 metrics than Dawson Mercer who this fan base always wants to add.
I know a Calgary whipping boy whose advanced stats look very similar.
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Dreger on Barn Burner thinks Detroit could circle back with CGY on Weegar if he's available, and then said they also want a 2C (Kadri) and have the pieces to make a big splash.
It's going to happen just because I bought a Weegar jersey on sale a month ago.
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They are not going to sell the farm

Unrealistic expectation any way
Is this just a reflex now? Thoughtlessly rejecting any trade for other teams valuable assets just because and not bothering to explain your position. Lame.

ASP + Danielson + 1st for Kadri and Weegar

The value for Kadri by himself is supposedly close to "Ritchie + 1st".
Weegar with 6 years of control is going to be worth more than Andersson with 6 months of control (2 1sts).

The Red Wings 2026 1st is going to be in the 20s (or later), so it won't be nearly the same value as when they were picking in the top 10 or teens. So the question mark is whether or not one values Danielson and ASP as being more than 3 1st round picks.

I think if you retain on Kadri (50% and 4 retention slots) the value is there for the Red Wings. The Red Wings lose a chunk of youth but gain two strong vets with years of control.

The one adjustment I would make (and perhaps make it more feasible) would be to swap ASP for a winger like Nygard or Bear. Wingers have less value than RD so it may be easier for the Red Wings to get onboard (and the Flames do not need a RD prospect coming back).
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Doubt they put Danielson in a package for those two when they wouldn’t put him for Andersson
I thought they did put Danielson in the package for Andersson, but only if he signed an extension.
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It's going to happen just because I bought a Weegar jersey on sale a month ago.
Can you go buy a Kadri and Coleman jersey too?
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It would definitely excite a huge portion of this fan base if Conroy swings a big trade with Utah and gets Tij Iginla. I don't think he does, as that's just way too much pressure on Tij in trying to live up to his dad here, but hot damn that would be exciting. I see Tij as a potential top-line center anyway, and I would be willing to move quite a lot to obtain that sort of potential.
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I thought they did put Danielson in the package for Andersson, but only if he signed an extension.
Friedman said that it wasn’t true
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It would definitely excite a huge portion of this fan base if Conroy swings a big trade with Utah and gets Tij Iginla. I don't think he does, as that's just way too much pressure on Tij in trying to live up to his dad here, but hot damn that would be exciting. I see Tij as a potential top-line center anyway, and I would be willing to move quite a lot to obtain that sort of potential.
I would target Desnoyers... there are too many "feels" around trying to acquire Iginla. First pick of the Utah franchise, family pedigree, etc. And then all of the drama on the Calgary side.

Landing Desnoyers would be less dramatic on the Utah side even though he was selected higher (in a different draft class).

There is no chance that the Mammoth catch up to a division spot but if they start loading up now they can probably secure the top wild card position and then battle it out with the Pacific division.
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I doubt Desnoyers is available either.
I think you could get But.
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I doubt Desnoyers is available either.
I think you could get But.
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I think there's about a zero percent chance you can get Desnoyers or Iginla in any deal. Those were the first 1st rounders under their Utah identity, and those are also ideal core prospects to build around. I'd imagine they are not nearly as committed to the Arizona prospects. But is a good shout.
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From sureLoss's summary of Friedman's 32 Thoughts in the Panarin thread...


If Utah is looking to make a splash, Calgary could be a one-stop shop for them with Kadri, Coleman, and either Weegar or Whitecloud potentially available.

They have some good pieces that could be appealing to the Flames too (especially you know who).


Given how strong the top of the Central is, this might be an odd year for them to go big game hunting, although getting the top wildcard spot and facing either Vegas or Edmonton in the first round could work out better than finishing 3rd in the Central. Plus, all of those Flames players have term left, so it wouldn't be selling the farm for one chance.
Just can’t see kadri waiving for Utah for a myriad of reasons. Chief being they aren’t that good this year. Attractive prospect base for sure. But don’t think it’s the right fit.
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