Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[Point Blank]

Just remember that this book ban reversal isn’t a win. They’re pausing it until they can bundle it up with some other stupid policy aka Shock Doctrine. This all happened while students are no longer allowed to be called their preferred names and pronouns and major restrictions were put in place for kids playing sports.

As a teacher why the #### should I police what name and pronoun a student wants to be called? I’ll call you Bucket if it helps you learn math.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by Point Blank

Just remember that this book ban reversal isn’t a win. They’re pausing it until they can bundle it up with some other stupid policy aka Shock Doctrine. This all happened while students are no longer allowed to be called their preferred names and pronouns and major restrictions were put in place for kids playing sports.

As a teacher why the #### should I police what name and pronoun a student wants to be called? I’ll call you Bucket if it helps you learn math.

Honestly, there haven't really been any "wins" since the UCP gained power. Looking at my crystal ball, the best thing that could happen right now is the strikes.

Teachers
Health Sciences Association of Alberta (HSAA)
Government Workers (AUPE)

If all three go on strike at the same time and if the strikes last for a significant amount of time then the government might collapse under the backlash. If the unions can send us to an election that removes the UCP... well, that would potentially make Labour day my new favourite holiday.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

John Carpay was disbarred by the ALS today.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha

That's gonna put a bit of a kink in his whole presidency of the JCCF. It's been awhile since that first bull#### covid flyer showed up at my door, so it's nice to see while the wheels of justice grind slow, they do grind.


Just looking at their "people" and it's interesting to see one of the three board members, Dr. John Robinson runs an anti-climate change organization, and, of course, is a regular contributor at the NP.


https://nationalpost.com/author/johnrobson2015/


Somehow, the JCCF remains a registered charity in Canada.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Point Blank

Just remember that this book ban reversal isn’t a win. They’re pausing it until they can bundle it up with some other stupid policy aka Shock Doctrine. This all happened while students are no longer allowed to be called their preferred names and pronouns and major restrictions were put in place for kids playing sports.

As a teacher why the #### should I police what name and pronoun a student wants to be called? I’ll call you Bucket if it helps you learn math.

Imagine, for a moment, this incompetent government attempting something as complicated as separating from Canada, setting up everything needed for a sovereign nation, and negotiating treaty rights. They can't even ban dirty pictures without it turning into a quagmire.

[chedder]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

I would guess they needed at least one adult present on the panel.

Did he actually say anything that called out what nonsense the whole thing is? He looked like a scolded dog in that clip, if dogs could think to themselves "oh for f-ck's sake".

No, he was specifically asked about transfer payments and he deflected and talked around the question for 2 minutes before finally saying the transfer system needs to be changed (which contradicts what he's said in the past).

Go to the 'Breakdown' feed on X or Blue sky to watch. Many calling him a soft propagandist for the ucp.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

John Carpay was disbarred by the ALS today.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha

Sadly he will become a martyr.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

John Carpay was disbarred by the ALS today.

Hahahahahahahahahahaha

https://documents.lawsociety.ab.ca/w...EkajQyJGwwJGgw

[Torture]

Originally Posted by TorqueDog

^Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Smith called it "vicious compliance" -- no, it's "malicious compliance" you twat, at least get the terminology correct.

What if they merged with the Alberta Party and called themselves the "New Alberta Party"... but kept the colour orange?

Or maybe they can call themselves the NüDemocrats, but use the colour blue and only play electro-industrial music at their party meetings and press conferences.

Insert "stop trying to make fetch happen meme"

Actually, the Alberta Party just invited ex-UCP MLAs Guthrie and Sinclair and voted to rename to the Alberta Progressive Conservative Party.

Apparently there's a loophole that a new party can't use an old party's name under elections law, but that restriction doesn't apply to an already existing party. Which is frankly, hilarious because I'm sure Danielle Smith is fuming mad about it. I guess you could say that's another case of "Vicious compliance"

[troutman]

Piikani Nation withholding Grassy Mountain support pending new scientific assessment of selenium pollution

Chief Troy Knowlton says Band Council withholding extension of support for reopening of derelict Grassy Mountain coal mine pending results of research

https://crowsnestheadwaters.substack...holding-grassy

The Australian mine promoter Hancock Prospecting (aka Northback Resources, Benga Mining, Riversdale Resources) had controversially secured the support of the previous Piikani Band Council with promises of money and jobs, but that endorsement expired and has not been renewed by the current council.

Knowlton acknowledged that his council did support Northback’s recently granted application for more exploration, “but that was in hope that the drilling program would show that it is not a viable initiative for the continued spending of dollars.”

[indes]

What am I missing about this mine? It seems like its a huge environmental risk we don't need to take, for a material we don't need to produce, mined by people who don't need to care about the fallout, to make profits for a company when they don't need to pay taxes here, to leave a pile of rubble for Albertans who do need this land and water.

What's the big payoff here for all the risk?

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by indes

What am I missing about this mine? It seems like its a huge environmental risk we don't need to take, for a material we don't need to produce, mined by people who don't need to care about the fallout, to make profits for a company when they don't need to pay taxes here, to leave a pile of rubble for Albertans who do need this land and water.

What's the big payoff here for all the risk?

There are rumours that a number of the UCP have been bribed with massive golden parachutes should the mine go ahead. That is why they have not only broken the law that Lougheed put in place to prevent mines like this but have basically ignored all of the backlash and agreed to build in huge penalties against Alberta should the mine not happen (Smith keeps talking about the $14B penalty against Alberta if we fight this mine).

It might be one of the most corrupt things the UCP has done.

[Duruss]

Originally Posted by Torture

Insert "stop trying to make fetch happen meme"

Actually, the Alberta Party just invited ex-UCP MLAs Guthrie and Sinclair and voted to rename to the Alberta Progressive Conservative Party.

Apparently there's a loophole that a new party can't use an old party's name under elections law, but that restriction doesn't apply to an already existing party. Which is frankly, hilarious because I'm sure Danielle Smith is fuming mad about it. I guess you could say that's another case of "Vicious compliance"

That sounds like fantastic news! Where did you hear it?

[puffnstuff]

Originally Posted by Wolven

There are rumours that a number of the UCP have been bribed with massive golden parachutes should the mine go ahead. That is why they have not only broken the law that Lougheed put in place to prevent mines like this but have basically ignored all of the backlash and agreed to build in huge penalties against Alberta should the mine not happen (Smith keeps talking about the $14B penalty against Alberta if we fight this mine).

It might be one of the most corrupt things the UCP has done.

The govt already settled with two coal companies...and we dont know for how much yet

From July 3
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...uits-1.7576254

Wait I was wrong, we do know some of the cost (about two fake tylenol orders worth)

Alberta is paying out more than $140 million to end one of five lawsuits launched against it over its coal mining policies.

A notice published online by Atrum Coal dated last week says the company has agreed to end its lawsuit and surrender its land back to the province in exchange for the payment.

The company's notice says it received just under $137 million last week and will receive another $6 million after it completes some reclamation work.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by Torture

Insert "stop trying to make fetch happen meme"

Actually, the Alberta Party just invited ex-UCP MLAs Guthrie and Sinclair and voted to rename to the Alberta Progressive Conservative Party.

Apparently there's a loophole that a new party can't use an old party's name under elections law, but that restriction doesn't apply to an already existing party. Which is frankly, hilarious because I'm sure Danielle Smith is fuming mad about it. I guess you could say that's another case of "Vicious compliance"

Oh, I was just trying to make Johnny Makarov's head explode by changing the name but keeping the colour, or keeping the name but changing the colour, both of which I believe he thinks contribute to the ABNDP's branding problem.

That is f-cking hilarious about the Alberta Party and soon-to-be Alberta Progressive Conservative party.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by wireframe

Question for the group: Is there anything we can actually do as sane calgarians to change the government?

Encourage your friends and family in B.C and Ontario to vote CPC in the next federal election.

I’m only half-kidding. But the two main reasons the UCP have a large locked-in base in this province is they champion the oil industry, which a lot of voters (and donors) are reliant on, and they blame everything on Ottawa.

The NDP can play nice with the energy industry but they’ll never outdo the UCP in that regard.

They have to hope the CPC form the next federal government so the UCP won’t be able to run against Ottawa.

[KelVarnsen]

I can remember all those great things that Harper and the CPC did for Alberta. So many things. Too many to list really.

[Looch City]

Or you fill it around. Let them run wild and ruin this province in hopes that Albertans do actually look in the ####ing mirror for once.

We're well on that train ride anyway, why stop?

[Julio]

Originally Posted by Looch City

Or you fill it around. Let them run wild and ruin this province in hopes that Albertans do actually look in the ####ing mirror for once.

We're well on that train ride anyway, why stop?

Cause the crash could be horrific.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by KelVarnsen

I can remember all those great things that Harper and the CPC did for Alberta. So many things. Too many to list really.

The point isn’t what the CPC will do for Alberta. As long as there’s a Liberal federal government, the UCP can draw on the support of a big portion of Albertans because they campaign as our protectors from the baddies in Ottawa. That’s just a reality of the political culture in this province.

[KelVarnsen]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

The point isn’t what the CPC will do for Alberta. As long as there’s a Liberal federal government, the UCP can draw on the support of a big portion of Albertans because they campaign as our protectors from the baddies in Ottawa. That’s just a reality of the political culture in this province.

Albertans will still vote UCP with CPC in charge. Alberta is not a serious province. They bitch whine and moan that the Federal government won't do anything for them. The Liberals know they won't get any benefit from doing so and CPC knows they won't have to do #### because Alberta will just vote for them anyways. So they keep voting CPC and UCP because its what Alberta does.