Isn't that part of what makes the show great, that it blurs the line of good vs evil that is typical of the fantasy genre? I recall reading a quote from George RR that was something along those lines, that wars in real life were never as simple as good guys and bad guys, and he wanted his story to reflect that.
Yep, who is to love coming out of that battle? Bronn? Jaime? Certainly not Dany. She just toasted not only the soldiers, but all the food too. Also, the scene with the Dothraki saying to Tyrion that his people fight poorly really riles up some negative sentiment towards them, like Dany just brought a whole bunch of ###### bags to the party who are not only gonna crash the place but also leave an upper-decker in the bathroom cause it's not their place and they don't care.
Great episode for emotional conflict.
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They're definitely trying to make Jaime a sympathetic character.
When Tyrion gazes wistfully at him, then later implores him not to charge at Dany/Drogon, that got me.
Jaime has been a sympathetic character ever since he got his hand lopped off. At least for me anyway. He's been loyal to his family to a fault, and his love for Cersei is tragic because she's a monster and he also kind of hates her. He can never again be a great warrior because of his hand, which was a major part of his previous identity. That's forced him to become more humble and honorable in some ways. His relationship with Brienne was also quite touching. He's always seemed victim of his circumstances and his title. Not to mention he never gets credit for doing the moral thing and killing the mad king.
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Wow, fantastic episode! To finally see the dragons in action in Westeros was so satisfying. I thought they did a great job during the battle as well, very emotionally conflicting. I wasn't sure who I should be cheering for at times.
I thought the pacing was great too, hopefully they've hit their stride with these condensed episodes. It was a bit jarring at times during the last episode. Really interested in how the Starks who remain in Winterfell stories play out.
My god that was amazing. The Dothraki cresting that hill and then Drogon. Wow.
Wow...what an episode.
I liked Dany's "No more clever plans" attitude.
The Dothraki up to this point had basically been glorified guards, always taking weapons and escorting guests and standing in the corner guarding.
Screw that nonsense, they're like a hand-grenade, point them towards the enemy and pull the pin.
First thing going through my mind when they were showing the Lannister soldiers forming a line was that I think looked only 2 rows deep.
Yeah, you're going to have a bad time trying to stop a lunatic on a 1000 pound horse going full speed with a line only 2 rows deep, and thats before the Dragon shows up.
I will echo other sentiments though, I think we just saw Season 7's CGI budget in its entirety.
Worth it.
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That Bron v Dothraki charge was unexpected. You just kind of assume that it's going to be Bron that does something clever and underhanded, but the Dothraki basically ruled his life there.
I hate that we have to wait a week to see what happens to Jamie. There's no way he can swim back up with all the armour and missing hand. I assume it's not the end of him or he would have been simply barbecued.
Jaime's not dead. Characters of his magnitude seem to get a significant and noticeable death.
Definitely a lot of emotional conflict. It's always easy to cheer for Bronn and Jaime, but when Bronn was loading up that machine I was worried.
I'm also pretty sure that wasn't Drogon she was riding. Looked like Rhaegal to me (more red colour).
I agree, I didnt get the impression that this was supposed to be much of a cliffhanger about whether Jamie lives or dies.
I assume it was Bron that saved his ass much as I assume Bron is going to drag him out of the lake, then Bron and Jamie are going to have to hoof it to King's Landing to get to Cersei who wont be there because shes so busy spending High Garden's sweet, sweet gold.
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Loved the episode too. My only complaint is with the effectiveness of that ballista. It would be really hard to hit a dragon with that thing. I know I'm nitpicking, but surely they would have built dozens of those things if they were that effective.
Wasn't bronn also the archer during the battle of the Blackwater that blew up stannis' fleet? The one thing to counter that is that he has proven to be a skilled archer prior to the episode
It could have been the placement of the ballista arrow that affected the dragon so much but people are right here in saying that it shouldn't be that easy, otherwise that weapon would have been everywhere back in dragon times.
Wasn't bronn also the archer during the battle of the Blackwater that blew up stannis' fleet? The one thing to counter that is that he has proven to be a skilled archer prior to the episode
It could have been the placement of the ballista arrow that affected the dragon so much but people are right here in saying that it shouldn't be that easy, otherwise that weapon would have been everywhere back in dragon times.
Yeah, that was a tad convenient.
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