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Old 08-28-2025, 07:07 PM   #26241
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I used to be proud of being from Alberta. Not anymore. What an embarrassing f***ing province. The UCP has to be the worst provincial government in the history of this country. What they're doing to the province and their citizens is absolutely f'n shameful.
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Old 08-28-2025, 07:44 PM   #26242
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I used to be proud of being from Alberta. Not anymore. What an embarrassing f***ing province. The UCP has to be the worst provincial government in the history of this country. What they're doing to the province and their citizens is absolutely f'n shameful.
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They say ignorance is bliss, but then what is intentional ignorance? It certainly isn't bliss look how miserable these people often are. Everyone must suffer.
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Old 08-28-2025, 07:56 PM   #26243
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I used to be proud of being from Alberta. Not anymore. What an embarrassing f***ing province. The UCP has to be the worst provincial government in the history of this country. What they're doing to the province and their citizens is absolutely f'n shameful.
Anyone who voted for the UCP in the past 2 elections needs to be deported. Deplorable morons.
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Old 08-28-2025, 10:18 PM   #26244
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I used to be proud of being from Alberta. Not anymore. What an embarrassing f***ing province. The UCP has to be the worst provincial government in the history of this country. What they're doing to the province and their citizens is absolutely f'n shameful.
It is very difficult. On one hand, I hate the idea of bailing on the fight to fix the province and get things back on track. On the other hand, raising kids changes my priorities and makes me think that leaving Alberta might be better for them as our quality of life (and the public school system specifically) continues to be attacked by the UCP.

Over the last few weeks I have been thinking more and more about referendums and petitions. I am glad to see what is happening with the Forever Canadian petition but it is frustrating because "winning" is just maintaining the status quo (and not blowing up our country for the selfish short-sighted greed of a few dolts).

I would like winning to actually push the needle back away from the madness. So then I was looking at these guys again with the Lethbridge gerrymandering conversation:
https://www.fairvote.ca/
https://fairvoteedmonton.com/

Overall their message is great but I do not feel like they are doing enough. They want to have events and meetings and talk and learn more about the problem and the potential solutions... but I want action to counteract the UCP flooding the zone against us.

To me, the answer is layered but in the short term I would stress 2 things:

1) The biggest thing is that everyone needs to start joining the political parties. Currently these parties are small and pretty easy to usurp. Just look at how the Wildrose managed to take over the PCs in the UCP merger or how TBA has tilted the party even further right. More people need to be in the parties and the parties need to be better regulated to ensure small extremist groups are not able to take over a party.

2) More immediately, I think speeding up the end-game from the Fair Vote team might be the answer. I think it would be worthwhile to put forth a constitutional referendum proposal to change Alberta from a First Past The Post (FPTP) electoral system to Proportional Representation.

With the new petition rules in place (less signatures needed over a longer period of time) and all of the attention that Forever-Canadian is bringing to petition signing to get a citizen led referendum in place, now might be the time to get Alberta out of FPTP.

Would it really help? I think so. I think a lot of voters do not turn out because they feel like their vote is wasted / won't count for anything because their riding is locked into one party or the other.... but if they felt like their vote would always have value then maybe we could get bigger turnouts? With bigger turnouts experts suggest that the more progressive party will typically win.

So, my question to the brain trust here would be: Would you support a referendum/petition for electoral reform right now? Has the UCP pissed you off enough to want to do more and force a change onto them instead of them perpetually doing it to us? Or do you think it is something that should wait until the current petition is wrapped up?
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I used to be proud of being from Alberta. Not anymore. What an embarrassing f***ing province. The UCP has to be the worst provincial government in the history of this country. What they're doing to the province and their citizens is absolutely f'n shameful.
If only someone had warned us...


No, I wouldn't support an electoral reform petition. I have no faith that the UCP wouldn't find ways to use it as an opportunity to favor themselves, no matter how the petition is worded.
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It is very difficult. On one hand, I hate the idea of bailing on the fight to fix the province and get things back on track. On the other hand, raising kids changes my priorities and makes me think that leaving Alberta might be better for them as our quality of life (and the public school system specifically) continues to be attacked by the UCP.

Over the last few weeks I have been thinking more and more about referendums and petitions. I am glad to see what is happening with the Forever Canadian petition but it is frustrating because "winning" is just maintaining the status quo (and not blowing up our country for the selfish short-sighted greed of a few dolts).

I would like winning to actually push the needle back away from the madness. So then I was looking at these guys again with the Lethbridge gerrymandering conversation:
https://www.fairvote.ca/
https://fairvoteedmonton.com/

Overall their message is great but I do not feel like they are doing enough. They want to have events and meetings and talk and learn more about the problem and the potential solutions... but I want action to counteract the UCP flooding the zone against us.

To me, the answer is layered but in the short term I would stress 2 things:

1) The biggest thing is that everyone needs to start joining the political parties. Currently these parties are small and pretty easy to usurp. Just look at how the Wildrose managed to take over the PCs in the UCP merger or how TBA has tilted the party even further right. More people need to be in the parties and the parties need to be better regulated to ensure small extremist groups are not able to take over a party.

2) More immediately, I think speeding up the end-game from the Fair Vote team might be the answer. I think it would be worthwhile to put forth a constitutional referendum proposal to change Alberta from a First Past The Post (FPTP) electoral system to Proportional Representation.

With the new petition rules in place (less signatures needed over a longer period of time) and all of the attention that Forever-Canadian is bringing to petition signing to get a citizen led referendum in place, now might be the time to get Alberta out of FPTP.

Would it really help? I think so. I think a lot of voters do not turn out because they feel like their vote is wasted / won't count for anything because their riding is locked into one party or the other.... but if they felt like their vote would always have value then maybe we could get bigger turnouts? With bigger turnouts experts suggest that the more progressive party will typically win.

So, my question to the brain trust here would be: Would you support a referendum/petition for electoral reform right now? Has the UCP pissed you off enough to want to do more and force a change onto them instead of them perpetually doing it to us? Or do you think it is something that should wait until the current petition is wrapped up?
I think it should wait until this one is wrapped up. Then hopefully the current petition becomes a stepping stone for everyone to see how we can effect change and we can revisit this next year.
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Old 08-29-2025, 08:05 AM   #26247
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Theres over 200 titles on the list. Seems like a LOT of female authors too.

The Breakdown has posted what they were sent. Two posts in the thread.

https://bsky.app/profile/thebreakdow.../3lxifxwz4222e

There are a fair number of books on the list that I've read. None of those are books I would stop a high school student from reading (my 15 year old daughter has read some of them). We actually studied the Handmaid's Tale in high school English. If that list is correct then it is really depressing.
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Old 08-29-2025, 08:24 AM   #26248
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They’re banning the Handmaid’s Tale yet are forcing us to live it.
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Old 08-29-2025, 08:58 AM   #26249
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Old 08-29-2025, 09:12 AM   #26250
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Majority of politicians, unions, gov are not great. Massively inefficient. Regardless of the spectrum they come from.
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Old 08-29-2025, 09:25 AM   #26251
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Theres over 200 titles on the list. Seems like a LOT of female authors too.

The Breakdown has posted what they were sent. Two posts in the thread.

https://bsky.app/profile/thebreakdow.../3lxifxwz4222e
These are clearly the books I will get my kids to read. Thanks UCP!
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Old 08-29-2025, 09:26 AM   #26252
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The NDP finally speaks out against the changes to AISH.
https://lethbridgeherald.com/news/le...from-disabled/


And a press release from them to. Now we need to see which news agencies pick it up.
https://www.albertandpcaucus.ca/news...on-of-aish-cut

The NDP is calling it theft and asking the UCP to admit they were wrong for once in their careers.
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