2024/2025 Season trade rumours and speculation thread

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by LiquidX

I think you guys tossing around trade proposals for Anderson are likely in for disappointment. If this team is in a playoff spot, I don't think he gets traded; he provides too much value and stability. Anderson brings compete, and management is not on Team Tank. I think moving any roster player currently is going to be a tough decision for connie.

I think there are guys that Connie brought in with the intention of getting them ice time and minutes to sell off. Those guys are bean, barrie, kuzmenko and mantha. But his more likely move at this point is to start weaponizing the cap space the team has as none of them have really done much to improve their value (imo). Maybe someone like Pelletier or Poirier.. (a team with poirier, parekh, and Brzustewicz making the team in the next couple years seems like a team with too many offensive defensemen).

Anderson could get a lot in return for sure, but not only would it decimate the defense, it would hurt the morale of the team by trading him (arguably their best player this year) away for assets that don't make an impact now, when the team is performing well.

I get it, christmas is coming, we all want shiny new toys - but ... if we get one, I doubt we move Anderson, or really any roster player making an impact right now.

It would decimate the room, and you’d hear nothing but media speculation on Kadri, Weegar, etc up to the deadline and leading up to the draft. I don’t think Conroy wants any part of that circus again.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Junglist

More efforts and mediocre goaltending is to come, similar to last night.
Trade Andersson this year.

Team is 8th in the entire league in GAGP.

Mediocre....hilarious.

[Monahammer]

"Team is performing well"

Y'all the team is being propped up by good goaltending. The eye test and advanced numbers show this. We are not a good team. We are not a well built team.

If management is buying into this performance and changing their tune on trading players who have asked for trades (widely reported and confirmed that Rasmus asked for one last summer) that's a huge problem and likely dooms us to another decade of mediocrity.

Failing to capitalize on assets like Andersson will be a huge, huge mistake.

[Monahammer]

WHO CARES ABOUT THIS ROOM. Who cares if the mood is ruined? Guys like Kadri and Weegar are good players but not going to get this version of the flames a cup.

I care about like 4 players in the room. Wolf. Zary. Coronato. Backlund. Everyone else can and should be traded. Playing ~96 point sneak into the playoff hockey does not equal a good performance and a contender.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

WHO CARES ABOUT THIS ROOM. Who cares if the mood is ruined? Guys like Kadri and Weegar are good players but not going to get this version of the flames a cup.

Ummmm...Craig Conroy does, as that is a huge part of his job.

I care about like 4 players in the room. Wolf. Zary. Coronato. Backlund. Everyone else can and should be traded. Playing ~96 point sneak into the playoff hockey does not equal a good performance and a contender.

Doesnt matter what YOU care about. Its about the 23 guys putting that jersey on game after game and making sure the culture around them is conducive to winning.

You want young guys to learn to play the right way in order to achieve future success? You HAVE to have guys that know how that happens and what it takes to get there. Almost as important is having them doing so together.

Andersson may or may not be part of the long term plan for this club, but there is zero rush to trade him now considering both how the team is playing (reagardless of how YOU think its being done) and his contract is good for yet another year.

[Paulie Walnuts]

As Blake Coleman said, we only want players who want to be here.

THe room won't be impacted by trying an Andersson if he wants out even if we are in a playoff position.

The players are not dumb, they understand what is happening. This isn't a retool, this is a rebuild. We have 20M in cap sitting, we could have gone out and done anything we want but we didn't.

Instead, we signed some stop gap players.

They are professionals and being paid a lot of money to do their jobs.

[Toonage]

Conroy has said on numerous occasions that he doesn't want to instill a culture of losing only to then ask those same young players to flip a switch and care about winning. It doesn't work that way and looking at teams hat have done just that he's right.

In other words, no fire sale coming unless someone goes to him and says I want out.

[Dan403]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

WHO CARES ABOUT THIS ROOM. Who cares if the mood is ruined? Guys like Kadri and Weegar are good players but not going to get this version of the flames a cup.

I care about like 4 players in the room. Wolf. Zary. Coronato. Backlund. Everyone else can and should be traded. Playing ~96 point sneak into the playoff hockey does not equal a good performance and a contender.

Young players need to be "raised" in a good environment. That's why it matters and that's why Conroy cares.

And its why you're wrong. But that's ok. Own your wrongness.

[Bingo]

The extreme opinions just kill me.

Luckily GMs make decisions with dimmer switches and not on/off.

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by Toonage

Conroy has said on numerous occasions that he doesn't want to instill a culture of losing only to then ask those same young players to flip a switch and care about winning. It doesn't work that way and looking at teams hat have done just that he's right.

In other words, no fire sale coming unless someone goes to him and says I want out.

If Andersson wants out, I don't think it sends a wrong message.

They seemed happy and said the team felt happier when we got rid of Lindholm and Hanifin, also Zadorov.

Not much can be done, if goaltending carries us into a playoff spot as long as you stick to the plan and don't spend cap space being a buyer it's ok.

It's how we got off track in 14/15. A fluke run based off a bunch of late comebacks, and they said let's go spending. Missed the playoffs and tried to correct it by doing dumb stuff like Hamonic and Brouwer.

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by Bingo

The extreme opinions just kill me.

Luckily GMs make decisions with dimmer switches and not on/off.

Except for Edmonton's!

[Wastedyouth]

I see everyone is doing well after our first loss in 5 games.

Should be a fun bipolar season!

[DXINATOR]

I’m surprised that Zegras’ name isn’t popping up more in this thread. Seems like exactly the type of player (age, distressed asset, position, offensive threat) that Conroy would/should be targeting. What am I missing?

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by DXINATOR

I’m surprised that Zegras’ name isn’t popping up more in this thread. Seems like exactly the type of player (age, distressed asset, position, offensive threat) that Conroy would/should be targeting. What am I missing?

All the red flags

He's a one dimensional player that isn't even particularly great at that one dimension. And the way he's quitting on his team would be concerning.

I think even if you can get him for a low price (which I doubt is the case, Verbeek is trying to extract value) then I think you have to think hard about whether you want him in your room and around young players.

[Knut]

Originally Posted by DXINATOR

I’m surprised that Zegras’ name isn’t popping up more in this thread. Seems like exactly the type of player (age, distressed asset, position, offensive threat) that Conroy would/should be targeting. What am I missing?

Red Flags all over that player.

[DXINATOR]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

All the red flags

He's a one dimensional player that isn't even particularly great at that one dimension. And the way he's quitting on his team would be concerning.

I think even if you can get him for a low price (which I doubt is the case, Verbeek is trying to extract value) then I think you have to think hard about whether you want him in your room and around young players.

Same age as Wolf, Zary, Bahl though. My thought would be that he is still young enough that he could be coached into playing the right way/ having the right attitude. Contract isn’t a massive risk either. I wouldn’t like to see a roster player, or a first traded for him but seems like a 2nd and a mid lvl prospect could be worth the risk? Might not even be close to what Beek is asking tho

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

All the red flags

He's a one dimensional player that isn't even particularly great at that one dimension. And the way he's quitting on his team would be concerning.

I think even if you can get him for a low price (which I doubt is the case, Verbeek is trying to extract value) then I think you have to think hard about whether you want him in your room and around young players.

Also very little team control the way his contract is. He needs a large qualifying offer after next season, can accept it, then walk away as a UFA the following year. Any team trading for him is likely just trading for 2 years of service and the right to overpay him for the time.

[traptor]

I don't necessarily agree with the choice, but I do agree it's how management will operate.

Rasmus will only be moved if Rasmus decides he wants out, or it gets very close to trade deadline next year and he's not signing.

If we're end up getting our young center via trade, it's probably going to be a combo of picks+prospects.

[traptor]

Originally Posted by DXINATOR

I’m surprised that Zegras’ name isn’t popping up more in this thread. Seems like exactly the type of player (age, distressed asset, position, offensive threat) that Conroy would/should be targeting. What am I missing?

I feel like there's a narrative surrounding him, that he's a selfish showboaty player and that turns off alot of people from him.

I'm not sure if it's fully deserver or not, but I lean on the side that it's overblown.

I'd be looking at him if the price is right. Reminds me alot of Nylander's early career.

[howard_the_duck]

Timing is critical for the Rasmus situation. Doing it now or when the team is performing well sends a bad message, and I don't see Conroy messing with the trust of his players and coaching staff. Doing it closer to the deadline when the team could very well fall back down to earth makes more sense. If they move him, that's the time I see it happening.