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Old 01-27-2026, 08:02 AM   #26101
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Exactly. "Listen we made it known throughout the league that the player is available. There wasn't any interest. If you want to try to find some interest, go ahead and let us know if you succeed."
But but but “insider” Kevin Weekes said Dallas and Colorado were favorites to get him. Who’s he carrying water for? Did he ever play or work in Pittsburgh for Rutherford?

Gonna have retain or take money back to make a deal happen. Hard to see them recouping a 4th.

For all the whining that goes on here about the Flanes and their direction, Canucks are way worse, borderline schizophrenic in their approach.

Sign petey to a bloated contract despite knowing of a rift in room
Trade Miller, get a first back then flip it for a 4-5d
Hire Quinn Hughes favorite coach knowing he won’t re-sign
Trade Hughes for a haul in futures

All in a years time.

At least Conny has been consistent in his approach. Not walking guys to ufa and getting younger. Vancouver’s swing has been so wild and apart from having Crosby and Malkin, hard to believe Rutherford has had as much success as he has. Managing by the seat of your pants.
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Old 01-27-2026, 08:03 AM   #26102
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It feels like the Flames' organizational mandate changes with the seasons. Come each fall it's back to square one and they really have to faceplant out of the gate to change their minds.
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Old 01-27-2026, 08:15 AM   #26103
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It feels like the Flames' organizational mandate changes with the seasons. Come each fall it's back to square one and they really have to faceplant out of the gate to change their minds.
All this culture talk from the team isn't about wins and losses. Its about avoiding the organizational poison of everybody showing up for day 1 of work knowing that they have no chance. All of the messaging around this rebuild is for the players to know that no one's throwing in the towel.

Also, we would have been in the exact same position had the flames plodded here by going 4-5-1 5 times in a row. They fell on their face, then got hot, then leveled off. Would have made no difference.

I hope they trade both guys, but the kadri deal doesn't fit like a glove like Coleman. The asset churn has at least 2 more years of runway. Them thinking that kadri's highest conjunction of asset value and young player insulation being next year is not crazy.
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All this culture talk from the team isn't about wins and losses. Its about avoiding the organizational poison of everybody showing up for day 1 of work knowing that they have no chance. All of the messaging around this rebuild is for the players to know that no one's throwing in the towel.

Also, we would have been in the exact same position had the flames plodded here by going 4-5-1 5 times in a row. They fell on their face, then got hot, then leveled off. Would have made no difference.

I hope they trade both guys, but the kadri deal doesn't fit like a glove like Coleman. The asset churn has at least 2 more years of runway. Them thinking that kadri's highest conjunction of asset value and young player insulation being next year is not crazy.
I don't really think the contract's time frame matter that much for Coleman and Kadri. Coleman is going to be 35 or 36 when his contract ends, Kadri will be older. There aren't guys who teams are going to want to agree or expect to agree on a long term deal if they acquire them.

Matters more for Frost since he's younger.

But I do think if you can move Coleman this year - you do it. He's having a good year and has Stanley Cup winner pixie dust on him. He could fall off next year and hurt his value.
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Not a lot of teams willing to employ human dirtbags.
Maybe EDM will take him back…
Short list, maybe he shoulda thought about that.
The Canucks trading for Kane remains one of the most inexplicable things to happen in the NHL for some time. Bad team trades for an aging veteran with massive personal baggage, and helps a divisional rival out of cap hell while doing it.

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A team will likely trade for Kane at the deadline but they probably shouldn't. He's on a steep decline and has negative locker room intangibles but NHL GM's gonna do what they always do.
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Maybe EDM will take him back…
I read on Twitter they already tried but Bowman said "Good luck with that".
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It feels like the Flames' organizational mandate changes with the seasons. Come each fall it's back to square one and they really have to faceplant out of the gate to change their minds.
What do you think the square 1 is? Can you describe it?
I'm generally curious. What is square 1 in your mind?
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Kiprios confirmed on the radio this morning that the price on Kadri is very low because of the term on his contract. Flames are hoping it goes up closer to the deadline.

Feels to me that a trade this season would be a trade for the sake of a trade, in other words doing right by Kadri, who is a winner and is very frustrated.

If it happens it will be because Kadri wants to go, not because it was an offer the Flames could not refuse.
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A team will likely trade for Kane at the deadline but they probably shouldn't. He's on a steep decline and has negative locker room intangibles but NHL GM's gonna do what they always do.
Carolina fits the bill.
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Kiprios confirmed on the radio this morning that the price on Kadri is very low because of the term on his contract. Flames are hoping it goes up closer to the deadline.

Feels to me that a trade this season would be a trade for the sake of a trade, in other words doing right by Kadri, who is a winner and is very frustrated.

If it happens it will be because Kadri wants to go, not because it was an offer the Flames could not refuse.
Kadri looks checked out, that swagger/chip on his shoulder way he plays every shift has been missing for a while. It's not even puck luck or lack of production, he just doesn't look like he's having fun.
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Kadri looks checked out, that swagger/chip on his shoulder way he plays every shift has been missing for a while. It's not even puck luck or lack of production, he just doesn't look like he's having fun.
Looks a bit like he did that first year under Sutter where he just basically quit on the coach and the team.
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Kadri looks checked out, that swagger/chip on his shoulder way he plays every shift has been missing for a while. It's not even puck luck or lack of production, he just doesn't look like he's having fun.
It's veteran leadership. Don't do what Kadri and Huby do.
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It feels like the Flames' organizational mandate changes with the seasons. Come each fall it's back to square one and they really have to faceplant out of the gate to change their minds.
Yet pointing this out in September was a cardinal sin!
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What do you think the square 1 is? Can you describe it?
I'm generally curious. What is square 1 in your mind?
How are we only just getting to the point now where a new organizational mandate to shift towards youth is coming down? To me, that speaks to the idea that regardless of where things sit in the overall scheme of things, the Flames enter each season with the goal to be a playoff team. Even if they get a top-3 pick this year and look woefully outgunned on paper to start next year, will it take 50 more games of trying to grind out 2-1 wins at all costs before the organizational mandate finally shifts again?
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But but but “insider” Kevin Weekes said Dallas and Colorado were favorites to get him.
Reads to me like they're the only two teams who didn't immediately hang up the phone when Milstein called.
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Yet pointing this out in September was a cardinal sin!
Are you going to be ok?

It's just as wrong as a theory now as it was then if it makes you feel any better.

They came into the last two seasons with a boat load of cap space and draft capital. One season they stayed in it all season and still didn't add.
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How are we only just getting to the point now where a new organizational mandate to shift towards youth is coming down? To me, that speaks to the idea that regardless of where things sit in the overall scheme of things, the Flames enter each season with the goal to be a playoff team. Even if they get a top-3 pick this year and look woefully outgunned on paper to start next year, will it take 50 more games of trying to grind out 2-1 wins at all costs before the organizational mandate finally shifts again?
We're not.

They've been working in young players for three years. Not adding veterans. Sitting on draft capital and cap space.

They are getting more comfortable with making what they are doing public.
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The Flames started the season, 8th youngest in the NHL, and were 8th Youngest last season, and that is with a couple of Dinosaurs like Backlund and Kadri to drag the average age up.

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Kiprios confirmed on the radio this morning that the price on Kadri is very low because of the term on his contract.
The price is low (i.e., what the Flames are asking for) or the offers are low (i.e., what teams are willing to give up)?
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