2025/2026 Season Trade Rumours and Speculation Thread

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Why try and wedge Farabee into Coleman's role, when you could have Stromgren or Kerins do it? Is Farabee really that much better than either

Frost, maybe... But I think Kerins would do just as well.

Their value is questionable, I don't think either gets us much of anything in a trade, but why make a big deal of holding on to them at all?

Farabee is a lot better, that is why he is an NHLer...he also isn't much older

[Matty81]

With Farabee while I am not opposed to moving him I feel like you'd almost have to give him away given his wage and he feels like a guy who might actually be worth something decent next deadline if he gets minutes. He will only have 14 months left on his deal and teams like grittiness which he has a bit of.

If Calgary is going to move a winger just for the sake of getting him out the door I would way rather it be Sharangovich personally, he's like Ales Kotalik 2.0 - we watch him do very little for 4 or 5 games in a row just because he's got a decent release and will put up 15-20 goals but he doesn't do much in between. I think you could pull up a guy from the farm who would get 15 goals with his minutes for a lot less and maybe look more like they GAF when they are not scoring.

I don't think anyone would take him though.

I am sure others will disagree but another dark horse guy I wouldn't mind seeing moved out this deadline if the value is there is Pospisil. I hate to say it for the poor guy but he's one more hit away from his career being over and I don't think he's going to be in the league when the flames are in the playoffs again, he's headed down the ferland track, also he's just not good enough to play in the league without his physicality. It's too bad because he is actually a lot of fun to watch but hard to see him playing into his 30s.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I don't think Bill or Kerins are NHL players at all unfortunately.

Yeah, I am not sure I disagree that much. I do think Kerins would have more points than Frost if given the same role.

But that's kind of my point, I don't think Frost and Farabee are really NHL players medium-long term. Who cares if they are here or not.

[TheIronMaiden]

It will be tough waiting a month for anything to happen. Watching a tanking team is boring.

[TOfan]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

The roster spot is the "only reason" I was talking about.

Sorry. Misunderstood that, somehow.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Why try and wedge Farabee into Coleman's role, when you could have Stromgren or Kerins do it? Is Farabee really that much better than either

Frost, maybe... But I think Kerins would do just as well.

Their value is questionable, I don't think either gets us much of anything in a trade, but why make a big deal of holding on to them at all?

Think you're undervaluing Farabee personally.

His actual goal splits have been limited, but he has some of the best play driving metrics on the team ... last year and this year.

that's a skill

And that's a great player to help develop younger players because they get into the offensive zone more often.

Flames last two years ...

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[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Yeah, I am not sure I disagree that much. I do think Kerins would have more points than Frost if given the same role.

But that's kind of my point, I don't think Frost and Farabee are really NHL players medium-long term. Who cares if they are here or not.

Not sure what this is based on...and I'm also certain Kerins would get absolutely owned as a 2nd line center in the NHL on the defensive side of the puck.

[Enoch Root]

Yeah, Kerins is not at Frost's level. Full stop.

[GioforPM]

Kerins is younger and therefore better. Or something.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Kerins is younger and therefore better. Or something.

24 in a couple months...basically a high schooler

unlike drinks at the legion 25 year old Farabee and in a seniors home 26 year old Frost

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

Yeah, Kerins is not at Frost's level. Full stop.

Show your work at least.

Similar OHL numbers, even played on the same team. Kerins has better AHL stats. The real difference is that no one has given Kerins a real shot at the NHL while the flyers let Frost flounder a few years to get his feet under him.

[Matty81]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

I don't think Bill or Kerins are NHL players at all unfortunately.

I don't know if I'm there yet with Stromgren. I don't think he's going to be an NHL all star or anything but I think he's going to play NHL games... for somebody.

All he has done is improve his offence every season in the AHL. And I don't watch a ton of wranglers or have access to the paywalled advanced stats for the A but he also looks to me like one of their best defensive forwards if not their best based on a couple viewing and his +/- which is admittedly imperfect is by far the best on the team, with Kuznetsov and Gridin the only other two players near him.

A lot of Swedes don't even come over until they are about his age and his trajectory all along with him being european and a big guy has looked like later bloomer, his numbers in sweden were the same he was like a year behind on his development curve but he still got there.

I think he deserves a long look, he's put in his time, got good results in the AHL and. And more than two games with barely any minutes (in which all I ever saw him do was draw two penalties). I feel like if the flames don't give him a shot and waive him next year someone else might given him a look like Phillips or Solo got. And not saying he'll take off, but I'd rather the flames do that themselves before they give up on him.

[TheScorpion]

I'm keen on getting Rory into more games but I don't think he's nearly as strong a skater as Frost.

[Monahammer]

Kerins had a better statistical last season in the OHL, and a better first season in the AHL than Frost.

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

I'm keen on getting Rory into more games but I don't think he's nearly as strong a skater as Frost.

Yes, this is fair. But he seems to be much more talented at controlling the puck, and retrieving the puck in cycle situations.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Show your work at least.

Similar OHL numbers, even played on the same team. Kerins has better AHL stats. The real difference is that no one has given Kerins a real shot at the NHL while the flyers let Frost flounder a few years to get his feet under him.

Kerins has better AHL stats lol

Yeah because he is still in the ####ing AHL at 24 years old. You realize he is ONE year younger than Farabee and 2 years younger than Frost right?? Flounder! Frost had 19 goals and 46 points his first full NHL season. Speaking of showing your work.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

It will be tough waiting a month for anything to happen. Watching a tanking team is boring.

I've been focusing on the prospects and young players. It's been surprisingly tolerable, if even a little fun.

The future isn't bright enough to require shades yet, but it's getting a glow.

My main concerns are how we're handling the young players when they get to the NHL level and making sure we don't win our way out of the bottom 5 with a completely unnecessary hot streak of some kind down the stretch.

The next 30 games are pretty crucial to the future of the team.

Another "sell" move from the GM could really help ensure we get there.

[sureLoss]

https://twitter.com/user/status/2015903688024617154

during the olympics, there are restrictions on teams making player transactions. The olympic roster freeze goes from february 4 at 3pm et to february 22 at 11:59 et.

During the freeze:

No trades are permitted
players can be sent down if they are waiver exempt, except for players that played in 16 of the team's 20 nhl games prior to the freeze, or have been on the nhl roster for 80 league days prior to jan 21
players can be placed on waivers during the freeze, but if the player was waived after their nhl team's final game before the freeze, they do not have to report to their new team until february 17.

[TrentCrimmIndependent]

Originally Posted by dino7c

Kerins has better AHL stats lol

Yeah because he is still in the ####ing AHL at 24 years old. You realize he is ONE year younger than Farabee and 2 years younger than Frost right?? Flounder! Frost had 19 goals and 46 points his first full NHL season. Speaking of showing your work.

I'd love to have seen Kerins get an actual season at the NHL level to know definitively what we actually had in him, but we never got that.

Even though he may have never panned out, a regular roster spot this year for Kerins would've made more sense than a roster spot for Lomberg who doesn't do much and is already what he is.

We aren't doing a very good job at exploring what potential exists in the pipeline for a team that's supposedly gearing up for the future.

We're giving looks, sure, but a cup of coffee with a few practices and a couple games with a whole 6 minutes of ice time isn't enough to get acclimated at this level let alone determine anything.

[Enoch Root]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

Show your work at least.

Similar OHL numbers, even played on the same team. Kerins has better AHL stats. The real difference is that no one has given Kerins a real shot at the NHL while the flyers let Frost flounder a few years to get his feet under him.

One had 158 NHL games before his 24th birthday (at about 0.5 PPG). The other has 7 NHL games, approaching his 24th birthday. Evidence backs up my view pretty decisively - if you want to argue differently, it's you that is going to need to show your work.

And points in the AHL is not sufficient - some guys can make the jump, and some can't. So tell us: why are you right and the Flames are wrong? (and the rest of the NHL for that matter, seeing as no one else has come along to scoop him up)