2024 NHL Draft Thread

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

Am I the only one who just realized Carter Yakemchuk, a defenseman, scored 30 goals this year in the dub???

That's wild.

Yakemchuk is a very intriguing prospect. He has scoring, size, skating, snarl and is a local kid. The reports keep calling him a raw and undeveloped talent but I don't see a lot to dislike. He is one of the older kids in the draft though, if that's relevant.

[SuperMatt18]

Originally Posted by HighLifeMan

His model would have also led to this team drafting Ayrton Martino and Sasha Pastujov over Stankoven in the 2nd round as they were his 13th, and 14th rated prospects in that draft. His model had Mason McTavish at 22. His model didn't have Wyatt Johnston as a 1st round talent. I could go on and on. An NHLe/purely production driven model is borderline useless in my estimation, but of course it will have it's "hits" along the way too..

Julien Gauthier was used as a draft year comparison for Stankoven for crying out loud.

Honestly his model is a bit useless for that draft year because of COVID.

If Stankoven actually played a full year he would have been showing much better in that model, but didn't because of how COVID worked.

Also why I think it's tough to fault the team for that. You were projecting guys that hadn't played a lot of hockey for 12-18 months based on what they were doing when they were 16 and 17.

I don't think Bader is really saying his model had Stankoven way ahead of Stromgren - because it didn't - I think he's just saying it pains him as a Flames fan.

[Major Major]

Tij looks outstanding again today. Doubt he falls to 9, but he would be an incredible pick.

[Monahammer]

If Tij and Buium are gone, I want Yakemchuk over Parekh I think. I've been into Parekh for a while but I think the calgary connection puts Yakemchuk ahead. Skating maybe an issue but that can be fixed, he has size and is way more physical than parekh.

[Roof-Daddy]

8 picks in the first 4 rounds for the Flames is amazing

Please don't trade any of them

[konradical]

Trade Marky for a first (hopefully he is worth that), and Mang for more picks in the top 64

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I'd rather they take a swing at a guy with top pairing upside but I am fully prepared for them to take the gigantic dman.

If they take him they would likely see him as having a top pairing trajectory.

A 6'7" guy with mobility is an elite hockey player if he makes his mark.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Bingo

If they take him they would likely see him as having a top pairing trajectory.

A 6'7" guy with mobility is an elite hockey player if he makes his mark.

Can he be elite with no offensive game?

[Royle9]

Originally Posted by Monahammer

If Tij and Buium are gone, I want Yakemchuk over Parekh I think. I've been into Parekh for a while but I think the calgary connection puts Yakemchuk ahead. Skating maybe an issue but that can be fixed, he has size and is way more physical than parekh.

I think you're sleeping on Parekh but we're all entitled to our own opinions so I cant fault you there.

Guys put up numbers never seen in the CHL at 16.
Yea, some defensive warts... but there's no denying his offensive instinct its absolutely crazy.

Meanwhile Yakemchuk was basically a 1 man show in Calgary, inflated numbers as a result of having to do it himself most nights. Not saying hes not good, but I think he's got just as many warts.

I know who I'd want quarterbacking my PP.

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Can he be elite with no offensive game?

He's 17 in the KHL. A league that is notoriously difficult for any u20 player to rack up points in, nevermind a defenseman.

[dissentowner]

Originally Posted by Major Major

Tij looks outstanding again today. Doubt he falls to 9, but he would be an incredible pick.

Sigh, by almost every draft ranking he would have to rise to be gone by 9. The odds favour him still there when the Flames pick. Whether he should be the pick depends on if others rise or fall.

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by Royle9

I think you're sleeping on Parekh but we're all entitled to our own opinions so I cant fault you there.

Guys put up numbers never seen in the CHL at 16.
Yea, some defensive warts... but there's no denying his offensive instinct its absolutely crazy.

Meanwhile Yakemchuk was basically a 1 man show in Calgary, inflated numbers as a result of having to do it himself most nights. Not saying hes not good, but I think he's got just as many warts.

I know who I'd want quarterbacking my PP.

How many defensemen at 17 have "one man show" ability in the dub? Pretty rare to see a 17/18 yo defensemen score at that rate in the WHL. He also led all defensemen in shots in the league. Topped #2 by 42 shots.

He shot at 10.9% on 275 shots, which isn't outrageous, but high (and good!) for a defenseman. The next closes goal scorer for defenseman was Marc Lajoie who shot 13.7% on 189 shots.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

He's 17 in the KHL. A league that is notoriously difficult for any u20 player to rack up points in, nevermind a defenseman.

If the general consensus is that you are drafting a 6'7 Chris Tanev if he even hits then I'd much rather they swing for Parekh or Yakemchuk etc. If Silayev was 6'2 then would teams be looking at him as top pick?

I am admittedly pretty biased against drafting giants outside of goalies. Hedman is the only player I can even think of that I would classify as elite that is close to Silayev's size. Most of the quick reading I have done on Silayev is that he has limited offensive upside which doesn't make him an appealing pick.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Can he be elite with no offensive game?

My opinion only ... but yeah 100%

[Roof-Daddy]

I wouldn't mind the Flames drafting Carter George with one of the 2nds this year

Kid looks good at the U18's

Lots of huge saves

[Wastedyouth]

Originally Posted by Bonded

If the general consensus is that you are drafting a 6'7 Chris Tanev if he even hits then I'd much rather they swing for Parekh or Yakemchuk etc. If Silayev was 6'2 then would teams be looking at him as top pick?

I am admittedly pretty biased against drafting giants outside of goalies. Hedman is the only player I can even think of that I would classify as elite that is close to Silayev's size. Most of the quick reading I have done on Silayev is that he has limited offensive upside which doesn't make him an appealing pick.

Hedman put up 4 points in 39 games in the Swedish Elite League in his age 17 year. There's a lot more about a young 17 year old playing against grown men that can be evaluated over points. I think he's being so well regarded because the future for offense is there with the right opportunity and ice time.

Many of the scouting reports say there is offense there. He was playing a bit on the powerplay for his team but mostly at evens. And lots of minutes, which is extremely rare as a 17 yo in the KHL.

I see a Victor Hedman, not a Zadorov here. But that's just my very unprofessional opinion.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Bingo

My opinion only ... but yeah 100%

That is fair. I think you need to be a two way player to be elite but I am not any more right than you are lol

Originally Posted by Wastedyouth

I see a Victor Hedman, not a Zadorov here. But that's just my very unprofessional opinion.

That is fair. If there is offensive upside to his game then I'd hate it less.

[Major Major]

Originally Posted by dissentowner

Sigh, by almost every draft ranking he would have to rise to be gone by 9. The odds favour him still there when the Flames pick. Whether he should be the pick depends on if others rise or fall.

I'll let you check back with those rankings in about a month sigh.

[dammage79]

I think 2025 is now officially the James Hagens draft. Dudes gone off. 19p in 5 gp. Here we are lauding McKennas Canadian record but Hagens has topped that by 4 points so far.

[Tbull8]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I think 2025 is now officially the James Hagens draft. Dudes gone off. 19p in 5 gp. Here we are lauding McKennas Canadian record but Hagens has topped that by 4 points so far.

I would bet Mckenna gives the record (whatever Hagens ends at) a good run next year