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Old 06-26-2024, 12:17 PM   #2581
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Old 06-26-2024, 12:23 PM   #2582
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But you’re kind of in a mess if you’re a 75 year old Sith lord and your apprentice gets off’d prematurely. What are you doing then? You’re no spring chicken at that point. It seems like it would at least be better to have a dyad per planet or something. Then the Sith aren’t wholly defeated because of old age and an untrained apprentice.

Fair, but remember we're dealing with a energy force with a dark and light side that binds the galaxy together.


Palpatine lost a apprentice in Maul, but opportunity bought him the disgruntled Jedi Dooku, and Palpatine already had a plan once he saw Anakin, and Dooku even though an apprentice, was to be Anakins first cold blooded murder.


In the Bane novels, Bane worried that his apprentice Zannah, was turning into a failure, and he just happened to find another powerful darkside user in Cognus, who was a ready made apprentice for either him or Zannah.


The Sith just like the Jedi heavily believe in destiny, they feel they are destined to bring peace and order and rule the galaxy, and therefore they believe that the Force will provide.
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It took me 5 episodes to realize who the actor playing Qimir was. I'm disappointed in myself.

Of course the Sith would be based in Florida.
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Can we all take a moment and just love the fact that he really bought it last night in terms of being an absolute menace and kind of terrifying.


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And the way he killed Jacki was a chefs kiss


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Can we all take a moment and just love the fact that he really bought it last night in terms of being an absolute menace and kind of terrifying.


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And the way he killed Jacki was a chefs kiss



Holy ####, he killed X-23.
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Eh, according to Ahsoka, lightsaber wounds aren't all that big of a deal and quite easy to recover from, actually.


However, that is a freaking awesome sequence.
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Old 06-26-2024, 01:15 PM   #2588
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Thought that episode was really entertaining.

Can see why they had Qimir kill the Wookie Jedi off screen.

So the first real taste of him was him carving up a whole group of Jedi like it ain't no thang.
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Holy ####, he killed X-23.
She'll be fine then.


Anyways the entire sequence was fun. Watching Qimir short out lightsabres on screen a fun new twist, they one upped themselves later when the strategy was used against him and he responded with what looked like his easiest kill, he just straight ended it.
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She'll be fine then.


Anyways the entire sequence was fun. Watching Qimir short out lightsabres on screen a fun new twist, they one upped themselves later when the strategy was used against him and he responded with what looked like his easiest kill, he just straight ended it.

I think that was a nice touch to lore, and especially legends.



Cortosis was a difficult mineral to mine, and Bane originally was nothing more then a slave to a mega corporation doomed to mine cortosis for the rest of his live, before he discovered his force sensitivity.


But Cortosis showed up throughout the EU and has made its way into Disney EU.


A metal that absorbs energy so fast that it shorts out lightsabers temporarily, but its also a very brittle metal, that can be shattered and broken.
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That episode was definitely much better than the last couple. The light saber fighting was surprisingly good. They didn't rely on lame super force powers like throwing an entire spaceship or doing quadruple air flips. The scenes with Qimir fighting multiple jedi at once were good. They didn't fall into the trap of having one opponent attack at once while the other ones stood there. It didn't feel overly choreographed and actually felt like a real battle.

My biggest gripe is that I can't tell if Qimir is menacing or annoying. Other than that, this show could have been pretty solid if the editing and pacing was better. I obviously don't know how it ends, but the story isn't what's holding the show back so far. If they'd gone with a detective mystery vibe with undertones of horror and action it could have been a lot more entertaining. Something similar in tone to the Pattison Batman?
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I am engaged. The episode as a whole was the best one so far. The dialogue seems like it was written by an 8th grader at times, but if we're honest, that rings true back to 1977.
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If it did one thing for me is it proved that as good as the animated series had gotten light sabre combat (Ashoka versus Maul with motion capture) was up until this point the best shot sabre battle in Star Wars.

This to me topped it, and it was allowed to be absolutely brutal.

And the show runners resisted the temptation of having the Jedi as super over powered. Outside of the first Force Cyclone by Qimir, and some small force pushes, this was pure sword play, and it was extremely well done.

I mean it changes the rankings for me. for fights

1) This one, it was well shot, it was brutal, they still had those pauses, but not too many, and it was fast, and it made our Sith friend look brutal and powerful.

2) Ashoka versus Maul, the final season of Clone Wars - This needs to be rewatched over and over again. It was the first time the animators bought in live actors and motion captured it, and it showed, it also had a real mental aspect to it too.

3) Maul versus Qui-gon and Obi-wan - Beautifully shot, and showed the Jedi Philosophy of passiveness by Qui-gon, Attack by Maul and rage and loss of emotional control by Obi-Wan

4) The final confrontation on Tattooine Maul versus Kenobi - Beautiful in its simplicity, and it was over so damn fast. It showed that Kenobi had finally achieved mastery.

5) Vader versus Luke ROTJ - Because it was a battle for Anakin's soul. But it wasn't fancy, but it had its brutal moments, and showed that Luke had grown from their first confrontation on cloud city where Vader just over powered him.
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Definitely the best episode so far, and they're finally starting to pay off the root mystery of what actually happened to the girls and witches that they've been building.

That's some of the best Star Wars action I've seen in a long time, very cool.
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If it did one thing for me is it proved that as good as the animated series had gotten light sabre combat (Ashoka versus Maul with motion capture) was up until this point the best shot sabre battle in Star Wars.

This to me topped it, and it was allowed to be absolutely brutal.
Not sure if it tops Ahsoka vs Maul for me but maybe only because of the emotional weight and investment of that one vs a fight between ppl we've just met.

But live action can just be more real and visceral and as you say they let it be brutal.

There's definitely a case for it being the best and for sure it's among the top, and that alone is an accomplishment for this show.
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Not sure if it tops Ahsoka vs Maul for me but maybe only because of the emotional weight and investment of that one vs a fight between ppl we've just met.

But live action can just be more real and visceral and as you say they let it be brutal.

There's definitely a case for it being the best and for sure it's among the top, and that alone is an accomplishment for this show.

I had trouble and your right, the emotional weight of the Ashoka Maul fight was huge.



First of all because Maul was the key to the revenge of the sith, and Ashoka could have stopped it, and initially said she would help. But her blind spot was her love for Anakin, and she couldn't get past that.



But the ending, when Maul was hanging in air screaming "Let me die", because he knew what was coming and we all knew that at that moment Sidious couldn't be stopped.


I always wondered why he didn't just flat out tell Ahsoka that his Master was the Supreme Chancellor, and would she have listened?


I didn't put the Anakin versus Obi-wan fights 1 and 2 in, because as mush as I liked the ROTS duel, it didn't have the same physical impact and at times came across as too choreographed. The Vader verus Obi-wan duel was really really good, but I was taken out of it a bit when Obi-Wan basically threw a mountain at Vader. I know it was supposed to show that Obi had accepted his place in the force and in this story, but it was a bit of force power over kill.
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Ahsoka vs Vader I thought about but really as a duel it isn't that great, again just the emotional payoff.
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Agreed, but the moment when she spits out "I'm no Jedi".


And "I won't leave you, not this time" which allowed us to see that Anakin was at that point truly gone, and Ahsoka was no different to him then anyone else was powerful.


But the duel itself wasn't terrific, and I get that since they were trying to make Vader a bit stiff and reliant more on power then technique it fell flat on the whole lightsabre side.


The other one that I could put in, but its not a light sabre duel, was Vader versus a bunch of Red shirts in Rogue one, mainly because it was god damn terrifying.
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I figure Qimir was using the force to boost his physical strength and sped at times, like Yoda vs Dooku. It feels like a under used aspect of the force and when Yord got his neck broken it all looked so easy for Qimir, like he was beyond human in strength.

Qimir might just be becoming my favorite darkside user.
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