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Old 11-24-2010, 06:24 PM   #241
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From one of trout's quotes:

Although there is evidence that circumcision will provide certain health benefits, the evidence continues to show that for little boys born in Canada, where antibiotics are readily available, the physical harm outweighs long-term benefit for both HIV and UTI prevention.

The ethical issues in removing healthy tissue from patients who are unable to consent to the procedure forms the basis of another treatise. One can only imagine the outcry if baby girls were submitted to cosmetic surgery in the first few days of life. Do our baby boys deserve less?


Sums up my thoughts, and why I take an issue with it. I don't like to see babies being harmed for no real benefit. I also believe in giving your children a choice regarding important matters once they are able to make the decision themselves provided it is not urgent. I guess I'm a monster.

I like how many in this thread jokingly just brush away all of this saying that we are too concerned about other men's junk, or that people wouldn't dare bring this up in real life due to how petty it is and it only concerns the infants parents. It is a rights issue to me, and one side doesn't appear to be very rational...so I do feel compelled sometimes to take a side vocally.

Painful cosmetic surgery on a baby doesn't strike me as something very necessary. Sorry.
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Old 11-24-2010, 06:32 PM   #242
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I'd have to reread this thread, but did a single snipped guy lament the loss of his foreskin?
Have we found any unsnipped guy that wishes they were snipped?

At the end of the day, a wiener is a wiener.

Except mine. Mine is amazing.
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Old 11-24-2010, 06:47 PM   #243
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So why do people care what other people do with their kids? O right because it's the internet, but in reality 99% of you wouldn't dare tell someone what to do with their kids in real life.
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The ethical issues in removing healthy tissue from patients who are unable to consent to the procedure forms the basis of another treatise. One can only imagine the outcry if baby girls were submitted to cosmetic surgery in the first few days of life. Do our baby boys deserve less?

There used to be a common practice of foot binding of young girls in China because small feet on women were considered more attractive, even erotic. This practice started in the 10th Century and continued into the mid-20th Century when it was finally outlawed in China.

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The practice of foot-binding continued into the 20th century, when both Chinese and Western missionaries called for reform; at this point, a true anti-foot-binding movement emerged. Educated Chinese began to realise that this aspect of their culture did not reflect well upon them in the eyes of foreigners; social Darwinists argued that it weakened the nation, since enfeebled women supposedly produced weak sons; and feminists attacked the practice because it caused women to suffer. At the turn of the 20th century, well-born women such as Kwan Siew-Wah(known in the West as Brigitte Kwan), a pioneering feminist, advocated for the end of foot-binding. Kwan herself refused the foot-binding imposed on her in childhood, so that she could grow normal feet.
Damn Commies! If parents want to wrap their daughters' feet, preventing them from growing, why should anyone else care? It's the parents' right to make decisions on their children's behalf. What about all those poor Chinese girls who grew up looking at their mother's beautiful tiny feet and wondering why they were strange and different. Everyone knows that men prefer tiny feet, and those poor girls will be considered ugly and outcast.


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So why do people care what other people do with their kids? O right because it's the internet, but in reality 99% of you wouldn't dare tell someone what to do with their kids in real life.
Back to the second half of this...

I've certainly given my opinion on the subject if it comes up in real life. I'm not going to go out and hold a protest rally in the maternity ward, or go to a HOOP fundraiser (yay, Arrested Development reference), but if there's a discussion, I'll give my opinion (and since this is a discussion on the subject in a discussion forum, I'll also give my opinion here).

I had a co-worker who recently had a son and he asked people their opinion on the subject because he was leaning towards wanting it done, but his wife was against it. By the end of the conversation, he was leaning towards not doing it. The kid was born in October, and I'm not sure what they decided.
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Old 11-24-2010, 07:09 PM   #244
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When it comes to man land I'd be more worried about prostate cancer (what is it 1 in 6 now?) and getting adequate treatment and care from our country's health system (which isn't peachy keen) then losing sleep over foreskin.
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Old 11-24-2010, 07:26 PM   #245
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When it comes to man land I'd be more worried about prostate cancer (what is it 1 in 6 now?) and getting adequate treatment and care from our country's health system (which isn't peachy keen) then losing sleep over foreskin.
Jesus... 1 in 6? Frack...
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Old 11-24-2010, 08:44 PM   #246
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If I were to wait until my boys were adults and had them make the decision they would most likely not have the procedure done unless they had a religious motivation.
Is that a problem? It's a medically unnecessary procedure.
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