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Phanuthier · 08-05-2010, 02:33 AM

I saw it last week, but haven't got around to go through this thread till now. I'd say its one of the best movies I've ever seen, 10/10 but it didn't blow my mind. Couple things:

- Does Mel (?) even exist? Do the kids even exist? Or is she just a side of Cobbes dream? For a carefully done movie, these are either notable hints or a inconsistency. How did Mel get to the other building's window so easily and quickly? The kids (when you finally see their face) are the same age and wearing the same clothes. Perhaps Mel was right and it was actually Cobbe who confused dream and reality.

- Anther reason I think the Cobbe is mixed up (and not Mel) is when Cobbe is running through the streets (I hope I have this part straight) he gets stuck but eventually gets free. Physically, the dimensions don't change. Only in a dream could the dimensions have changed?

... there were a few others, I really should have wrote this post after I saw the movie rather than 10 days later.

Cliche · 08-05-2010, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Phanuthier

I saw it last week, but haven't got around to go through this thread till now. I'd say its one of the best movies I've ever seen, 10/10 but it didn't blow my mind. Couple things:

- Does Mel (?) even exist? Do the kids even exist? Or is she just a side of Cobbes dream? For a carefully done movie, these are either notable hints or a inconsistency. How did Mel get to the other building's window so easily and quickly? The kids (when you finally see their face) are the same age and wearing the same clothes. Perhaps Mel was right and it was actually Cobbe who confused dream and reality.

- Anther reason I think the Cobbe is mixed up (and not Mel) is when Cobbe is running through the streets (I hope I have this part straight) he gets stuck but eventually gets free. Physically, the dimensions don't change. Only in a dream could the dimensions have changed?

... there were a few others, I really should have wrote this post after I saw the movie rather than 10 days later.

SPOILERS

From Cobb explaining why he cannot return home due to the fact that authorities are convinced that he caused his wifes death, so he's currently out of country to avoid charges.

Since Mal is a subconscious projection of Cobb's, much like the numerous security guards in the first layer of the dream, or the train, (which is probably the same train that killed Cobb to first escape limbo) normal rules do not apply, so she could pop up at the worst time to foil whatever plans that Cobb has. Essentially, she's Cobb's projection of guilt over her death, and the reason why he hasn't killed that projection yet is that he's still in love with her.

Also according to the clothing designer, the clothes the kids are wearing at the end (when you see their faces) they are indeed different clothes.

The running through the streets bit, could have been either way, however Cobb was trying to go through the narrow opening breadthwise and not one shoulder first. Nolan could have hammered into us that it was indeed a dream by having Mal appear in the back ground watching Cobb struggle through the section instead of the actor trying to go through the scenery wrong.

It was kind of stilted at points. Ellen Pages' Ariadne was a good character plot device to explain wtf Cobb and Arthur are doing, and some of the basic tricks and techniques they are doing with Inception.

It was just slightly off, and in view of the director's history, was probably good therapy. (For an A-B plot movie, he could have focused or given more meat to DiCaprio dealing/torturing himself with Mal)

killer_carlson · 08-05-2010, 08:02 PM

saw it..... meh....

I thought Ellen Page was good. Di Caprio was good. The nerd from third rock? I'm sorry, I can't buy him in a matrix style fight. He would get beat up and beat up badly by a truck stop waitress let alone trained security professionals. Ruined the movie.

Yeah_Baby · 08-05-2010, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by killer_carlson

saw it..... meh....

I thought Ellen Page was good. Di Caprio was good. The nerd from third rock? I'm sorry, I can't buy him in a matrix style fight. He would get beat up and beat up badly by a truck stop waitress let alone trained security professionals. Ruined the movie.

What do you mean you 'couldn't buy it'. It was a dream dude. I can't really pull in poon like George Clooney but I do in my dreams.

MrMastodonFarm · 08-05-2010, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by killer_carlson

saw it..... meh....

I thought Ellen Page was good. Di Caprio was good. The nerd from third rock? I'm sorry, I can't buy him in a matrix style fight. He would get beat up and beat up badly by a truck stop waitress let alone trained security professionals. Ruined the movie.

But you bought, Keeanu Reeves?

BaldyAuldy · 08-07-2010, 09:44 AM

Here is a question:
What was the final kick to get them from the van to the plane? Did the sedation wear off? Does the machine they were hooked up to have a timer?

Human Torch · 08-07-2010, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BaldyAuldy

Here is a question:
What was the final kick to get them from the van to the plane? Did the sedation wear off? Does the machine they were hooked up to have a timer?

spoiler pic
http://imgur.com/VJuWi.jpg

BaldyAuldy · 08-07-2010, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Human Torch

spoiler pic
http://imgur.com/VJuWi.jpg

Thanks. That's kinda what I thought

Flames Draft Watcher · 08-07-2010, 05:53 PM

Gotta say that the soundtrack really enhanced the film for me. I certainly noticed that on the 2nd viewing and have been listening to the soundtrack a lot in the past couple days.

Well done music can add a lot to a movie, to the epic feel.

Flames0910 · 08-07-2010, 06:24 PM

To elaborate on the Mall in another hotel room conundrum...after three viewings I've decided he isn't dreaming (or if it is a dream, it's Nolan's dream he's sharing with the audience).

Cobb's memory's are already messed up (fuzzy line between reality/dreaming) because the characters are young (when we learn they should actually be old). His subconscious could very easily put Mall in the other room as a manifestation of Cobb's own helplessness.

Flames Draft Watcher · 08-07-2010, 06:34 PM

Why do people think Mol in the hotel room opposite is a problem? Someone said how would she have time to get there? I'm not sure what that question means. From my recollection he was meeting her there. She had already trashed the room in order to set him up and then presumably must have had a 2nd room rented right across from it in order for the set up to work.

I didn't find that part of the movie odd at all.

Phanuthier · 08-08-2010, 01:58 AM

Went back for a 2nd viewing, even more convinced that the whole thing is Cobbe's dream and Mal may or may not be a manifestation of Cobbe's concious.

Mol in the hotel room - well, the reason I think it is because there are very few inconsistancies, but this just doesn't fit. So Mol trashed the honeymoon room, then took the elevator downstairs, crossed the street, rented another hotel room, went to the other building and got up on the window ledge there? You notice the honeymoon suite is trashed, but the room across the street Mol was on is untouched.

Running through (India?) shot. 15 min before this one, Cobbe talks about the the physical architecture being able to change within a dream. Watching it again, I can't tell if he was worming his way through the walls, or if he was actually stuck and the physical architecture of the walls changed on him. Also, the company hunting him down (forgot name) and the chase, it was almost like projections attacking him - similar to a dream.

Kids clothes - paid special attention to that today. Looks the same to me.

koop · 08-08-2010, 04:42 AM

I think Phanuthier might be colour blind

killer_carlson · 08-08-2010, 09:44 AM

I have no problem thinking that Keanu Reeves could beat up Third Rock.

Weiser Wonder · 08-08-2010, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Phanuthier

Mol in the hotel room - well, the reason I think it is because there are very few inconsistancies, but this just doesn't fit. So Mol trashed the honeymoon room, then took the elevator downstairs, crossed the street, rented another hotel room, went to the other building and got up on the window ledge there? You notice the honeymoon suite is trashed, but the room across the street Mol was on is untouched.

Yes, that's exactly what Mal did. Why would she trash the room she was actually in? She only needed to trash the room Cobb went into in order to frame him. It all fits.

photon · 08-09-2010, 11:33 AM

Really liking the soundtrack to this, can't wait for the Bluray to give my home theater an exercise!

BTW I created a spoiler tag for you guys so you don't have to keep writing in white/yellow. Just [spoiler]

Spoiler!

Knalus · 08-09-2010, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Phanuthier

Running through (India?) shot. 15 min before this one, Cobbe talks about the the physical architecture being able to change within a dream. Watching it again, I can't tell if he was worming his way through the walls, or if he was actually stuck and the physical architecture of the walls changed on him. Also, the company hunting him down (forgot name) and the chase, it was almost like projections attacking him - similar to a dream.

Except that in dreams, everyone acts different/weird. The Africans at the table playing games, the people filling the entire city, didn't act like projections. They didn't start looking for the interloper. I think it's real.

Cecil Terwilliger · 08-09-2010, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by photon

Really liking the soundtrack to this, can't wait for the Bluray to give my home theater an exercise!

BTW I created a spoiler tag for you guys so you don't have to keep writing in white/yellow. Just [spoiler]

Spoiler!

Photon that is the greatest thing I have ever seen.

Spoiler!

Question though, is the only way to do it is to type it in myself? or is there a quick ling button in the taskbar?

photon · 08-09-2010, 11:56 AM

No button in the task bar, I'd have to make one and upload it and link it in, which I might do at one point.

photon · 08-09-2010, 12:52 PM

http://www.chud.com/articles/article...ION/Page1.html

Here's a summary I kind of liked, and pushes me more toward his view. I really like the whole movie making is the act of inception idea, the more skillful the movie the more the audience will think the idea is their own.