New round of pictures - credit to yyc_engineer on SSP.
Inside look at one of the tunnel sections near 38th Street. This will fit only one direction, with the opposite direction running parallel in another tunnel right next to it.
Tunnel construction from the outside. Concrete forms.
Tunnel work will reach here eventually. Looking east toward 37th Street
View looking east from the top of Sunalta Station. About 3 weeks until major concrete work is done here.
View looking east from the top of Sunalta Station.
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Several of the new LRVs have arrived over the last couple months and have been undergoing testing. They should start hitting the rails for revenue service within a matter of weeks.
Here's a couple pictures, both by "LRT" on CPTDB.
Notice the more streamlined exterior and the cameras mounted on the sides where the mirrors were on the older units.
Perhaps the biggest difference most will notice, the new seating arrangement seen in this shot of the interior.
^Yes, all "perimeter seating" whereby everyone seated is looking toward the inside of the train.
This is way overdue. I read somewhere that the actual number of seats is only slightly fewer than the "old" configuration, but the standing capacity is obviously much better.
If they want more people standing why not put a bar in the middle so more people can hang on?
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This is way overdue. I read somewhere that the actual number of seats is only slightly fewer than the "old" configuration, but the standing capacity is obviously much better.
Anyone have a link for this? I have no doubt the total capacity is much higher due to more room for standees, but it seems like there must be way fewer actual seats.
Anyone have a link for this? I have no doubt the total capacity is much higher due to more room for standees, but it seems like there must be way fewer actual seats.
I'm trying to find a link somewhere, but I am quite sure that I read it in the SSP forum. I'll keep looking and post when I find it. I remember being surprised at how close the similar the seated capacities were.
Anyone have a link for this? I have no doubt the total capacity is much higher due to more room for standees, but it seems like there must be way fewer actual seats.
Despite my best efforts to find a link to something from the manufacturer, the city, or the media reports, all that I could find was the discussion on SSP that I was remembering:
Basically, the current SD-160 cars have a capacity of 60, and it was estimated that the new side-seating configuration would remove 4 or 8 seats per car and would obviously increase the standing capacity by more than that.
I have found that this type of configuration works well in other, bigger cities around the world. It is a good compromise between providing plenty of seats for off-peak times, and providing standing capacity for the sardine can during rush hour.
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If they want more people standing why not put a bar in the middle so more people can hang on?
There are poles in the middle if you look at the picture. If you mean the very middle of the train where the circle is on the floor, you can't put a pole there because that is the articulation and it rotates as the train is going around bends.
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That just means more jostling for seats and pushing/shoving when it comes to getting on the train. Excellent.
While there are less seats, passenger flow should be much better due to the more efficient arrangement, especially in the spaces between the doors. There are less seats and people's legs getting in the way of standees. On the older SD160s with the "knee-to-back" seating arrangement, movement through the aisles between doors is quite difficult because there isn't much space between the rows of seats.
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Despite my best efforts to find a link to something from the manufacturer, the city, or the media reports, all that I could find was the discussion on SSP that I was remembering:
Basically, the current SD-160 cars have a capacity of 60, and it was estimated that the new side-seating configuration would remove 4 or 8 seats per car and would obviously increase the standing capacity by more than that.
I have found that this type of configuration works well in other, bigger cities around the world. It is a good compromise between providing plenty of seats for off-peak times, and providing standing capacity for the sardine can during rush hour.
Yes. There actually are not very many seats being removed, but the capacity will increase significantly. It's just a much more efficient design due to much less conflict between standees and either the seats or the legs of sitting passengers.
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Hey Frink, Im too lazy to ask at SSP, but do you know if Sunalta station is going to built using the prefab blocks & launching truss, or just traditional concrete pouring. Its hard to tell what's on top of the station's piers with all the scaffolding around there.
Hey Frink, Im too lazy to ask at SSP, but do you know if Sunalta station is going to built using the prefab blocks & launching truss, or just traditional concrete pouring. Its hard to tell what's on top of the station's piers with all the scaffolding around there.
The pictures that Frink re-posted just a little while back would indicate that it'll be poured. There's a heck of a lot of rebar up there.
Edit: Here it is (Credit to YYC Engineer via Frinkprof):
^I think what's going to happen is there will be a base of poured concrete where you see the rebar in the pictures. On top of that will be the prefabricated platform pieces that have been used on all stations since (I think) McKnight-Westwinds (including the new ones on 7th Ave. if you have seen them). The launching truss will actually pass over the station itself, then continue lifting the guideway segments into place once it gets west of the station. It has to wait until the pour is done though.
So the actual platform height will be a few feet above where the rebar is now.
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