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Old 02-12-2010, 03:47 PM   #241
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You are honestly the most useless poster on here. You never ever contribute to anything. You just make stupid jokes that were funny a week ago yet you still try and pull them.

Jesus. Take some of your own medicine.
Dj, your BS antics are once again derailing another thread.

And also, you calling out another poster as being "useless" is very, very pot / kettle'ish.
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Dj, your BS antics are once again derailing another thread.

And also, you calling out another poster as being "useless" is very, very pot / kettle'ish.
Are you serious? I was debating this issue and he decided to chime in with that useless post.

WOW.
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Old 02-12-2010, 03:50 PM   #243
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There will be an investigation, the safety of the track will be examined, and professionals who have dedicated their entire life to this sport will make an informed decision on how to proceed. Who the hell are we to say what should happen?

A young man's life was taken abruptly today in a dangerous sport. If you think his peers, the IOC or VANOC or Luge Federation is going to take this lightly, you are mistaken.
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Rational thinking often doesn't enter into the equation in situations like this, people think 'well it won't happen to me'. I'm sure a few sliders would pull out, but I think the majority would continue on.
Sounds a lot like everyday life. Sure another person could die, but why can't another person die at another track? Is there a track out there where someone has never been injured? If they are getting injured it is dangerous, dangerous can also lead to deaths.

It's like shutting down a Deerfoot because people have been killed on it before.
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[quote=HOOT;2332188]Sounds a lot like everyday life. Sure another person could die, but why can't another person die at another track? Is there a track out there where someone has never been injured? If they are getting injured it is dangerous, dangerous can also lead to deaths.

It's like shutting down a Deerfoot because people have been killed on it before.[/quote]

Where exactly did I say they should shut it down? Can you point that out?

BTW, next time you're a Deerfoot take a look at the center median, why do you think they installed that wire catch fencing?
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Old 02-12-2010, 03:53 PM   #246
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Dj, your BS antics are once again derailing another thread.

And also, you calling out another poster as being "useless" is very, very pot / kettle'ish.

Not really "pot/kettle'ish" in response to: "Shut up already, really."
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Where exactly did I say they should shut it down? Can you point that out?
Sorry for just quoting you but I was replying to the group who want to move or cancel the event with my last sentence. I will try and note that for next time.


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Why wasn't it always there? Because sometimes it takes someone getting injured or killed to learn a lesson.
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I have an engineering background. So from that perspective, I can say that from what I've seen, I see a poor design and a death that could have been prevented. That is my initial reaction, which I submit is just as valid and someone saying, no, everything was designed properly this is just a freak occurrence and nothing could have been done.
Of course in retrospect it is easy to say that there is something wrong. However it's too easy IMO to say that "any idiot would know those columns shouldn't be there". (not saying you said that). I can't imagine that the engineers would have ignored those columns. I would assume that the most time spent on designing a course would be the calculations making sure the rider doesn't fly out of the course. But to be clear I am putting fault on anyone (luger or designer) because I don't know anything about it. But I would be very interested to hear an expert (luge designer) opinion.
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Sounds a lot like everyday life. Sure another person could die, but why can't another person die at another track? Is there a track out there where someone has never been injured? If they are getting injured it is dangerous, dangerous can also lead to deaths.

It's like shutting down a Deerfoot because people have been killed on it before.
I don't know about that.. The intended use of the track is to go fast down it. If the track is judged to be too dangerous, and it sounds participants are nervous about it, then it has design flaws. Sometimes that isn't found until after something really bad happens, but it doesn't change the fact that there are some pretty serious flaws.
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You are honestly the most useless poster on here. You never ever contribute to anything. You just make stupid jokes that were funny a week ago yet you still try and pull them.

Jesus. Take some of your own medicine.
I made a joke? I just told you to shut up.
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There will be an investigation, the safety of the track will be examined, and professionals who have dedicated their entire life to this sport will make an informed decision on how to proceed. Who the hell are we to say what should happen?

A young man's life was taken abruptly today in a dangerous sport. If you think his peers, the IOC or VANOC or Luge Federation is going to take this lightly, you are mistaken.
Particularly on the opening day of the games. VANOC and the IOC really don't want this to get out of control.
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I don't know about that.. The intended use of the track is to go fast down it. If the track is judged to be too dangerous, and it sounds participants are nervous about it, then it has design flaws. Sometimes that isn't found until after something really bad happens, but it doesn't change the fact that there are some pretty serious flaws.
I know they are designed to go fast but that doesn't always mean the fastest you can go. There are ways to slow you down, even if it is 5-10mph, which could be the difference of not bailing over the edge after hitting the wall in a weird way to flip your body.

Plus I'm not arguing if the track is dangerous or not, I'm just saying I don't think anyone could have seen this happening and people crying for the designers to be held responsible is just ridiculous.
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Stop posting it! The man died and it has been posted a dozen times now.
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Are you serious? I was debating this issue and he decided to chime in with that useless post.

WOW.
There's a thing called an ignore list. If you can't figure out how to use it, I'm sure there are plenty of users who would help you out if they haven't already added you to their ignore list.
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You are honestly the most useless poster on here. You never ever contribute to anything. You just make stupid jokes that were funny a week ago yet you still try and pull them.

Jesus. Take some of your own medicine.
Hilarious.

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Stop posting it! The man died and it has been posted a dozen times now.
Pretty sure I'm not the only one who wondered how the accident happened.
I didn't read the whole 14 pages before posting it.
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Absolutly tragic I was watching that at a friends today when it happened and CTV immediatly went to commercial. Really sad 21 years old. RIP.
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TSN just showed the video again.
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Sorry for just quoting you but I was replying to the group who want to move or cancel the event with my last sentence. I will try and note that for next time.




Why wasn't it always there? Because sometimes it takes someone getting injured or killed to learn a lesson.
I guess I'm not a big fan of the 'human test dummy' approach.

I don't know that this was foreseeable, but just because something is inherently dangerous doesn't mean that precautions can't be added to make it safer. In the case of deerfoot it wasn't a matter of learning a lesson, it was a matter of spending the money. I hope that isn't the case here.
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