[PGT] 2024 Draft - Your Overall Thoughts & Ratings

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

About this time last year, we had a crew wanting to fire Conroy....

I don't believe you lol

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Bonded

I don't believe you lol

ISTR there was a very small contingent that had the torches and pitchforks out because of the Toffoli trade.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

ISTR there was a very small contingent that had the torches and pitchforks out because of the Toffoli trade.

Ohhhh, that tracks lol. Probably the same group who thought Lindholm was worth a 3rd overall.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by Bonded

Ohhhh, that tracks lol. Probably the same group who thought Lindholm was worth a 3rd overall.

I don't recall that it was the same group. But there were a couple of posters who thought Sharangovich was just a throw-in because he'd been a healthy scratch in the playoffs.

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by VilleN

Is this at all meaningful immediately after the draft? I'm sure any team could plug players into that model and see who they should draft at each pick to get the best expected result. I guess it's just fun to speculate on this kinda stuff.

There is how scouting services rank the players and how the teams select them.

I find that some of the scouting services are better at drafting then the teams are. The drafts the Flames draft a bunch of guys lower than they were ranked seem to work out very well. Often the reason is the upside of the guys you took vs the safe pick.

[Samonadreau]

Originally Posted by Hot_Flatus

Next year's draft will hopefully fill the C void and the team can start moving forward with a recurring pipeline of good, skilled NHL prospects that they will have started accumulating since 2023.

With any luck there will be a few top line Cs to choose from in the top 5 as the year progresses.

Looks to be 3 C's early on in the draft projections in top 5 next season. That's not including McQueen who could slide in there to. Definitely projecting to be a good draft for Centers in the top 5.

The real home run would be getting Mckenna in 26 though.

[looooob]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Or maybe parts of three players in his model

Parekh 0.9
Basha 0.7
Gridin 0.6

(guessing)

probable even further incremental bits. like a .16 for Mews (I think this is how this would all work?)


https://x.com/ByronMBader/status/1807093263901523979

[AC]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1808245639849168944

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by AC

https://twitter.com/user/status/1808245639849168944

Still wish the Flames grabbed Poirier when they could. Buium vs Parekh is going to be interesting to follow as well

[dammage79]

Wasn't it essentially confirmed Buium was gonna do the U.S or nothing thing with his NCAA powers. I've read that from a couple different places. So who effing cares about Buium. It's probably why Yakemchuk was taken over him as well.

I'm happy they didn't gamble with that.

[AC]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Wasn't it essentially confirmed Buium was gonna do the U.S or nothing thing with his NCAA powers. I've read that from a couple different places. So who effing cares about Buium. It's probably why Yakemchuk was taken over him as well.

I'm happy they didn't gamble with that.

I don't believe there were any reports, however SureLoss pointed out that his rep/agent is the same as Cutter Gauthier's who just pulled the power move to get traded from Philly.

All things considered, I agree the risk wasn't worth it when Parekh was available.

[Bingo]

Originally Posted by VilleN

Is this at all meaningful immediately after the draft? I'm sure any team could plug players into that model and see who they should draft at each pick to get the best expected result. I guess it's just fun to speculate on this kinda stuff.

I do think a team could just draft using a consensus average and be very popular with basement scouts after the draft.

The question becomes ... were the basement scouts and scouting services that make up the consensus ahead of NHL teams with skill and hockey sense? Or will there be a correction where ignoring size completely bites you in the ass?

The Flames were out of order, so they clearly weren't just drafting by consensus, but they do seem to be valuing skill and hockey IQ highly, which makes their list look good.

[butterfly]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

Two people rated it a “D”. Like, WTF?

People vote for the Marxist-Leninist party. 96% of people gave it a B+ and up so I think fans are pretty happy about this draft.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Wasn't it essentially confirmed Buium was gonna do the U.S or nothing thing with his NCAA powers. I've read that from a couple different places. So who effing cares about Buium. It's probably why Yakemchuk was taken over him as well.

I'm happy they didn't gamble with that.

The reverse of that is also that the Parekh family has a backstory that is about as Canadian as it gets and they sound very grateful and humble that being in Canada has presented them with opportunities and a path for a better life. Parekh is probably going to be proud to ply his trade in Canada.

I have no opinion on Buium and have no idea where his priorities are, but there is always a risk I guess that some American players will try to fast track their way to an American market. Not all will do that, but it happens enough that I think Canadian teams do need to weigh that risk.

[activeStick]

Originally Posted by dammage79

Wasn't it essentially confirmed Buium was gonna do the U.S or nothing thing with his NCAA powers. I've read that from a couple different places. So who effing cares about Buium. It's probably why Yakemchuk was taken over him as well.

I'm happy they didn't gamble with that.

Hey!! Not every American player that plays in the US college system will do that for sure! Some don't, and plus, maybe it'll be different for the Flames!

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by butterfly

People vote for the Marxist-Leninist party. 96% of people gave it a B+ and up so I think fans are pretty happy about this draft.

People that vote for M-L believe in that cause. Are there really people who believe the team failed at the draft? And why?

Or are they just being dicks for attention?

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by AC

https://twitter.com/user/status/1808245639849168944

to get four of the 21 top PNHLE players (including #3) at picks 9, 28, 41, 74 speaks volumes to how strong Calgary's amateur scouting is. Of course they've had some misses over the years, especially the 2023/2014 draft, but they've produced so many quality NHLers since 2008 even outside the first round:

TJ Brodie in the 4th round
Micheal Ferland in the 5th round
John Gaudreau in the 4th round
Brett Kulak in the 4th round
Oliver Kylington in the 2nd round
Andrew Mangiapane in the 6th round
Rasmus Andersson in the 2nd round
Adam Fox in the 3rd round
Martin Pospisil in the 4th round
Dustin Wolf in the 7th round
Ryan Lomberg undrafted dev camp
Garnet Hathaway undrafted college FA
and honestly Matthew Phillips in the 7th round and Adam Ruzicka in the 4th round were still good picks.

The Flames still need to draft higher. Get players at the center position whose name could someday be spoken of on the same breath as Bedard (1OA), Barkov(2OA), Matthews(1OA), Eichel(2OA), MacKinnon(1OA). Once we do that, this team will have no difficulty surrounding then with hungry, competitive, productive, skilled, intelligent teammates. Amateur scouting is the Flames' greatest strength by far.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

People that vote for M-L believe in that cause.

People who believe in that cause are completely out of touch with reality.

Are there really people who believe the team failed at the draft? And why?

Yup. They're completely out of touch with (that particular part of) reality.

[jatylo]

I would rate it a A-
Really happy with most of the picks
Just questioning the Gridin pick and would have liked to use the Hoskin pick to take a swing on Kiviharju who was consistently ranked in the top 10 a few years ago.

Plus it would have been great to find another 5th round pick for Poirier.

But I'm mostly complaining about late round picks which are just found money if they pan out

[dustygoon]

Just rewatched rounds 2-7. Sam Cosentino is so cringe, but anyway......

There was a huge trend this year of teams reaching for size. Not sure if they are all kanzig's or not.

Predators picks' height in rounds 3 onwards: 5' 10", 6' 3", 6' 2", 6' 3", 6' 1".

Sens 2nd round onwards: 6' 7", 6' 2", 6' 3", 6' 4", 6' 4"

I assume this is part of the reason why we were able to snag mid-sized skill guys like Mews and Misa in later rounds.

I have no problem zigging while other teams zag, as long as we find our size and hard nosed players somewhere. Bahl in that trade. Last year we were all over size in the draft.