No; More Canada Day Fireworks!!

[getbak]

Would there be anything to prevent someone from renting a place like COP and putting on a show there? I'm pretty sure the city's fireworks were done at COP at least one year.

Although, at this point, it's probably too late to organize something.

[DownInFlames]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Chu comes out swinging.

Speaking of pedos.

[Yoho]

Originally Posted by getbak

Would there be anything to prevent someone from renting a place like COP and putting on a show there? I'm pretty sure the city's fireworks were done at COP at least one year.

Although, at this point, it's probably too late to organize something.

Hard to imagine you would get a permit in city, and they are threatening $10;000.00 fines for anyone that decides to try their own.

The suggestion was out of town acreage I read.

[FlamesAddiction]

Vancouver has cancelled Canada Day fireworks permanently.

https://globalnews.ca/news/9721790/v...ks-canada-day/

Nothing to do with reconciliation. The fireworks were cancelled in 2020 and 2021 due to Covid. After consultation with local First Nations out of respect for the recent residential school findings, it was decided to go ahead with fireworks in 2022.. This year, the Port of Vancouver decided that the costs just aren't worth it.

Other municipalities are likely still going to hold their own displays though.

[Slava]

Is there actually a connection between residential schools and fireworks? I’m willing to say that I might have missed something and I’m happy to be corrected on that front.

I was on the Canada Day committee (eons ago) in Lethbridge and I don’t recall any complaints. I also have no recollection that last year or the year before a fireworks show was racist or anything of the sort?

I’ve never really had an issue with Yoho, but posting something that I agree with Sean Chu is a pretty low blow!

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Slava

Is there actually a connection between residential schools and fireworks? I’m willing to say that I might have missed something and I’m happy to be corrected on that front.

I was on the Canada Day committee (eons ago) in Lethbridge and I don’t recall any complaints. I also have no recollection that last year or the year before a fireworks show was racist or anything of the sort?

I’ve never really had an issue with Yoho, but posting something that I agree with Sean Chu is a pretty low blow!

Really? Sean Chu declares "To reinstate the tradition of firework is NOT Racism,period!" and that's the end of that? If Sean Chu is against something that should be a pretty big red flag that maybe, just maybe, the issue is deeper than his 3 brain cells can comprehend. I'd be cautious about jumping into bed with that.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Really? Sean Chu declares "To reinstate the tradition of firework is NOT Racism,period!" and that's the end of that? If Sean Chu is against something that should be a pretty big red flag that maybe, just maybe, the issue is deeper than his 3 brain cells can comprehend. I'd be cautious about jumping into bed with that.

Well that’s true, but I do think that this is a ridiculous action.

[Fuzz]

On the surface of it, sure. The city hasn't really done a great job on communicating. Without really knowing the details, I'm not going to hop on a Chu-Chu train of certainty.

[FunkMasterFlame]

https://twitter.com/user/status/1661683143630307329

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/don...box=1685009824




Whether they "officially" made this announcement or not, city council owns this decision. And no, disagreeing with it does not make someone a racist colonialist.

[transplant99]

Originally Posted by FunkMasterFlame

Whether they "officially" made this announcement or not, city council owns this decision. And no, disagreeing with it does not make someone a racist colonialist.

Not according to at least 1 city councillor.

Reversing this decision would be upholding colonialism and racism.

Its so absurd its hard to believe it was even uttered.

[GirlySports]

Maybe it is time to get rid of fireworks in favor of light shows. There are many good reasons to do so, they didn't have to use this one.

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by Sliver

He's probably not wrong, though lol. Being accused of pedophilia - for most people - is totally preposterous and pretty easy to brush off. Being accused of racism? That's much more plausible and you'd react pretty fast to defend yourself.

So as ridiculous as it is, I actually don't think he's wrong.

I don't think the comparison was based on the ridiculousness of calling someone a pedo (therefore not taking it serious)

There seems to be this idea floating around (among conservatives) that pedophilia is now acceptable because some random professor said we should ditch the term "pedophile" in favour of “Minor Attracted Persons” in order to destigmatize the term

https://torontosun.com/news/world/wo...tracted-person

[Slava]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Maybe it is time to get rid of fireworks in favor of light shows. There are many good reasons to do so, they didn't have to use this one.

OK, I'll bite...what good reasons are there?

[you&me]

Originally Posted by Cappy

I don't think the comparison was based on the ridiculousness of calling someone a pedo (therefore not taking it serious)

There seems to be this idea floating around (among conservatives) that pedophilia is now acceptable because some random professor said we should ditch the term "pedophile" in favour of “Minor Attracted Persons” in order to destigmatize the term

https://torontosun.com/news/world/wo...tracted-person

Why the #### would you want to "destigmatize" the term?

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Slava

OK, I'll bite...what good reasons are there?

They're noisy, there's smoke that's bad for the environment, causes problems in the ecosystem, they're expensive etc...

There are alternatives now with lasers and drones.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Cappy

I don't think the comparison was based on the ridiculousness of calling someone a pedo (therefore not taking it serious)

There seems to be this idea floating around (among conservatives) that pedophilia is now acceptable because some random professor said we should ditch the term "pedophile" in favour of “Minor Attracted Persons” in order to destigmatize the term

https://torontosun.com/news/world/wo...tracted-person

It was my comparison and it wasn't the lack of seriousness of being called a pedophile. In my world, people are so scared of being labeled any sort of racist that they worry about that even moreso than being called a pedophile. Conversations become unnatural. Again, it may be the company I keep. It may be that I'm chit chatty and people share this with me.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

They're noisy, there's smoke that's bad for the environment, causes problems in the ecosystem, they're expensive etc...

There are alternatives now with lasers and drones.

So basically no good reasons. I mean really, those issues are negligible at best.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

Really? Sean Chu declares "To reinstate the tradition of firework is NOT Racism,period!" and that's the end of that? If Sean Chu is against something that should be a pretty big red flag that maybe, just maybe, the issue is deeper than his 3 brain cells can comprehend. I'd be cautious about jumping into bed with that.

Sean Chu may be a moron, but I think perhaps a bit more thought than just "Sean Chu likes this, therefore it must be awful" should be put into it.

[you&me]

Originally Posted by Slava

So basically no good reasons. I mean really, those issues are negligible at best.

I haven't been following closely, so maybe someone can help me understand:

The fireworks have been cancelled because of reconciliation and the Chinese Exclusion Act... But the fireworks are being replaced by some sort of "light show"...

So the event isn't cancelled, just modified... To me, that seems like the worst of both worlds.

[TorqueDog]

Originally Posted by you&me

I haven't been following closely, so maybe someone can help me understand:

The fireworks have been cancelled because of reconciliation and the Chinese Exclusion Act... But the fireworks are being replaced by some sort of "light show"...

So the event isn't cancelled, just modified... To me, that seems like the worst of both worlds.

"We don't use that word anymore because it's insensitive."
"So what do we do now?"
"We use this word over here that we all know means the same thing as the first word, but we've got about 3-5 years before people start complaining again and we have to pick a new word."

Basically, but for Canada Day celebrations.