05-13-2023, 11:10 PM
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Appealing my suspension
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Just outside Enemy Lines
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Originally Posted by looooob
well for one more night, and hopefully only one more night, half the teams left in the playoffs are from the mighty Pacific
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I won't be that sad if by Monday Night the same holds true. So long as it's not the case tomorrow.
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05-14-2023, 07:54 PM
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#242
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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The clock has not struck 12 yet! Couldn't post after the win as I was out and about but but it was fun having to explain to my father in law why the Kraken players tossed (fake) fish into the stands after a win.
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05-15-2023, 03:28 AM
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#243
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2022
Location: California
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I’m so excited to enjoy a playoff Game 7 for what it is and not have to think about the impact on the Oilers.
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05-15-2023, 11:30 AM
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#244
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Franchise Player
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I think Dallas takes it but with the Oilers out who cares!
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05-15-2023, 11:32 AM
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#245
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Now that the Oilers are out I'm going for Seattle to win this series. That would make 3/4 teams left that have never won a cup.
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05-15-2023, 11:33 AM
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#246
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Richmond upon Thames, London
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We're getting the ExpansionBowl, aren't we?
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05-15-2023, 11:38 AM
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#247
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damn onions
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Vegas Seattle west final is a bit of a gross situation IMO.
Two expansion teams? Me thinks the expansion draft rules are a bit... favourable...
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05-15-2023, 11:39 AM
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#248
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Van Island
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Originally Posted by dino7c
I think Dallas takes it but with the Oilers out who cares!
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Absolutely, now I just want to watch good hockey with a bit of cheering for Seattle as the underdog.
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05-15-2023, 12:07 PM
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#249
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee
Vegas Seattle west final is a bit of a gross situation IMO.
Two expansion teams? Me thinks the expansion draft rules are a bit... favourable...
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Well, TBF, Vegas' top players minus Marchessault and Karlsson are the result of acquisitions - Stone, Eichel, Pietrangelo, Stephenson. And it's not Vegas' fault other teams gifted them Smith, Tuch, Theodore, etc, to buy Vegas choosing Marchessault, Karlsson, Carrier, Stoner and Haula. Looking back, GMs were mighty dumb. I have no idea how Calgary escaped with them choosing a player that wasn't even going to be re-signed.
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05-15-2023, 12:22 PM
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#250
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Chicago
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A half billion buys some favorable, probably
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05-15-2023, 02:08 PM
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#251
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: I don't belong here
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Originally Posted by GioforPM
Well, TBF, Vegas' top players minus Marchessault and Karlsson are the result of acquisitions - Stone, Eichel, Pietrangelo, Stephenson. And it's not Vegas' fault other teams gifted them Smith, Tuch, Theodore, etc, to buy Vegas choosing Marchessault, Karlsson, Carrier, Stoner and Haula. Looking back, GMs were mighty dumb. I have no idea how Calgary escaped with them choosing a player that wasn't even going to be re-signed.
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Super lucky that the Flames had Derek Engelland who resides in the Las Vegas valley. Vegas wanted that "home town boy" and the Flames were happy to leave him unprotected anyway.
Sure he was going to be UFA but when you look at the other players the Flames left unprotected... Engelland was the best choice.
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05-15-2023, 02:13 PM
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#252
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary, AB
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If Dallas wins, it will be the southernmost Conference Finals ever. Vegas would be the city furthest north in the Conference Finals.
Regardless of who wins, it will be the first time that all 4 teams in the Conference Finals had not played their first game in their current city when Gary Bettman became commissioner. The Panthers franchise was awarded 2 days before the league hired Bettman, and the Stars relocation was approved a month after he took over.
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05-15-2023, 02:16 PM
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#253
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Vegas was gifted their team by bad GMs - not by the expansion rules.
A pick to take Fleury, Marchessault and Smith to protect Petrovic, Theodore instead of others from Anaheim, etc
Seattle is a bit different. Didn't make a single trade. Didn't really pick a lot of great players. But really showed the value of cap space and opportunity. And guys like Gourde, McCann, Bjorkstrand, etc have thrived with it. Some weird choices too though with people like McCann and Eberle being left unprotected.
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05-15-2023, 02:36 PM
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#254
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee
Vegas Seattle west final is a bit of a gross situation IMO.
Two expansion teams? Me thinks the expansion draft rules are a bit... favourable...
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$600M should buy some favourability, IMO.
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05-15-2023, 02:37 PM
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#255
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Vegas was gifted their team by bad GMs - not by the expansion rules.
A pick to take Fleury, Marchessault and Smith to protect Petrovic, Theodore instead of others from Anaheim, etc
Seattle is a bit different. Didn't make a single trade. Didn't really pick a lot of great players. But really showed the value of cap space and opportunity. And guys like Gourde, McCann, Bjorkstrand, etc have thrived with it. Some weird choices too though with people like McCann and Eberle being left unprotected.
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NYI protected Matt Martin who is now 34 and scored 19 points and Clutterbuck, who played half a season and got 12. The Pens traded McCann so they could protect...Blueger (who they traded for peanuts to Vegas), and oddly Toronto paid the Pens for McCann so they could protect Kerfoot, but then they exposed Kerfoot anyway in order to protect 4 D.
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05-15-2023, 03:44 PM
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#257
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Calgary
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Go Stars Go!
I have become a fan of Pavelski.
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05-15-2023, 03:55 PM
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#258
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by TrentCrimmIndependent
We're getting the ExpansionBowl, aren't we?
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Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee
Vegas Seattle west final is a bit of a gross situation IMO.
Two expansion teams? Me thinks the expansion draft rules are a bit... favourable...
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We are getting close to it. It was a somewhat similar scenario in the 1996 NFL season when the Carolina Panthers and the Jacksonville Jaguars both made it to the semi-finals (NFC and AFC championships) in their second season. Both teams lost.
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05-15-2023, 05:28 PM
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#259
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First Line Centre
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Originally Posted by EldrickOnIce
A half billion buys some favorable, probably
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The days of expansion teams being absolute dog#### for years after they join are gone. Making expansion teams crappy by design killed the Kansas City Scouts/Colorado Rockies, kinda-sorta eventually killed the Golden Seals, Nordiques, Jets and Whalers, and damned near killed the Blues, Penguins, Islanders, Flames, Capitals, Senators and Lightning.
David Bonderman and Jerry Bruckheimer did not spend $650,000,000 to have a #### hockey team. Bill Foley did not spend $500,000,000 to have a #### hockey team.
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