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Old 12-27-2022, 10:49 PM   #241
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I do agree that should've been a call. But this is hockey (####, sports in general). There's gonna be missed calls. If there were a few other instances in the previous 59 minutes where it appeared obvious there should've been a call that wasn't, then I would take issue of blatant bias.
How long is Hyman allowed to hang on to Tanev’s stick. That surely should have been a call. I guarantee you if it was a Flame grabbing McDrais stick it would have been called instantly.
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Old 12-27-2022, 10:50 PM   #242
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The Oilers scored two goals tonight. I think your opinion on the officiating is inflamed by who the opponent is. Otherwise you should be in here every night complaining, because its inconsistent league wide. There are 12 teams with fewer penalty minutes than the Oilers. They can win any game cause their top players score, which was my original argument in that we lack this in our top guys.
So it's just the timing of the complaints that are bothersome?

Also, I'll fyp - their top players score, ON THE POWERPLAY. And there is no doubt that is where they excel. Absolutely 100%. But again, back to the argument that they benefit more from poor officiating. And in this game in particular, it was glaringly obvious what was happening.

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Hyman holding and interference on toffoli

if you call those o-zone penalties on the Flames, you've gotta call those ones on the Oilers

pure incompetence
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The Mangiapane slashing penalty was the funniest of them all. The gentlest tap ever, it was all stick and Ceci takes his hand off and gets the call.

Surprised there weren’t more powerplays handed to the Oilers honestly. Expected 5, 10 and a game for that legal check on McDavid by Weegar.
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The Mangiapane slashing penalty was the funniest of them all. The gentlest tap ever, it was all stick and Ceci takes his hand off and gets the call.

Surprised there weren’t more powerplays handed to the Oilers honestly. Expected 5, 10 and a game for that legal check on McDavid by Weegar.
chintzy, sure. but it's fine, those calls happen

just call the same s*** on the Oilers!!! ffs
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Taking some penalties? Did you miss the Nurse hit? The Hyman stick hold? The trip in Ritchie? The waterski on Tofolli? The Oilers took lots of penalties, the refs just refused to call them.
This is borderline insane. The hit by Nurse at the end was the easiest interference call in the history of the NHL. Gimme a break that the Flames didn't draw penalties.
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What are you talking about easily 3 missed calls on the Oilers. And many more tick tac calls they could call which they do against is but didn't tonight.
We could argue on how egregious those were, and to be honest those didn't stand out to me enough to remember how they looked like. Maybe you're right that they should've been called and simply weren't. I don't know if they were worse than the Mangiapane hold. But with how low the penalties called was in general, it was definitely a game where the refs let the players play from my perspective.

For me this game was another example of where a completely undisciplined penalty from the team cost them. And it has happened far too many times that I feel that it's gonna be the type of problem that will persist through the whole season no matter who the opponent is.
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does anyone here honestly think the Flames could hit McDavid in open ice 40 feet away from the puck and up by one goal in the last minute and get away without a penalty?

do they score? who knows...it should have been a 2 man advantage with the goalie out though

did they play a perfect game? no
but are they at a disadvantage against the Oilers before the game even starts?

I certainly think so, this isn't a one off either
McDavid was carrying the puck and took a clean hit from Weegar and Sportsnet treated it like the Zapruder film.
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We could argue on how egregious those were, and to be honest those didn't stand out to me enough to remember how they looked like. Maybe you're right that they should've been called and simply weren't. I don't know if they were worse than the Mangiapane hold. But with how low the penalties called was in general, it was definitely a game where the refs let the players play from my perspective.

For me this game was another example of where a completely undisciplined penalty from the team cost them. And it has happened far too many times that I feel that it's gonna be the type of problem that will persist through the whole season no matter who the opponent is.
I mean if the Nurse hit on Toffoli didn't stand out to you I don't think you were actually watching the game close enough to comment on anything tonight


sure the Flames took the undisciplined penalty...but so did the Oilers, well they should have
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We could argue on how egregious those were, and to be honest those didn't stand out to me enough to remember how they looked like. Maybe you're right that they should've been called and simply weren't. I don't know if they were worse than the Mangiapane hold. But with how low the penalties called was in general, it was definitely a game where the refs let the players play from my perspective.

For me this game was another example of where a completely undisciplined penalty from the team cost them. And it has happened far too many times that I feel that it's gonna be the type of problem that will persist through the whole season no matter who the opponent is.
We have very different opinions of "letting them play". A 3-1 PP advantage for the team getting absolutely pumped at even strength is a strange definition of letting them play.
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McDavid was carrying the puck and took a clean hit from Weegar and Sportsnet treated it like the Zapruder film.
20 seconds after a blatant Ritchie trip never to be seen again
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Also, I thought Weegar was very good tonight.
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We could argue on how egregious those were, and to be honest those didn't stand out to me enough to remember how they looked like. Maybe you're right that they should've been called and simply weren't. I don't know if they were worse than the Mangiapane hold. But with how low the penalties called was in general, it was definitely a game where the refs let the players play from my perspective.



For me this game was another example of where a completely undisciplined penalty from the team cost them. And it has happened far too many times that I feel that it's gonna be the type of problem that will persist through the whole season no matter who the opponent is.
No doubt. Dumb penalty.

But I think that's what we are all taking issue with. Hyman holding the stick. Nurse knocking Toffoli to the ice away from the puck. Both undisplined plays that were NOT called. Why? Why is only the Flames that appear to take undisplined penalties but in the case, the Oilers also clearly demonstrated undisplined play but we're not penalized.

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We have very different opinions of "letting them play". A 3-1 PP advantage for the team getting absolutely pumped at even strength is a strange definition of letting them play.
I guess the antennas that Tim Peel said go up when they've called more penalties on one team conveniently malfunctioned after the Oilers took the lead.
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No doubt. Dumb penalty.

But I think that's what we are all taking issue with. Hyman holding the stick. Nurse knocking Toffoli to the ice away from the puck. Both undisplined plays that were NOT called. Why? Why is only the Flames that appear to take undisplined penalties but in the case, the Oilers also clearly demonstrated undisplined play but we're not penalized.

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a consistent standard for what is/isn't a penalty seems rare nowadays

if you're telling me you couldn't find another Oilers infraction in those other 58 minutes then you're either blind or willfully ignorant
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Old 12-27-2022, 11:05 PM   #255
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Things I hated tonight

The whole lazy team getting beat by Nurse after he was stuck out there for 2 minutes to prevent an icing
Kadri lolly gagging his way back to the bench allowing a 3 on 2 for oilers because he can’t be assed to hustle off
The result obviously
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Old 12-27-2022, 11:06 PM   #256
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For some reason we go play a back to back in Seattle tomorrow while Edmonton is off until Friday.

The NHL really sucks at holiday scheduling. We need Christmas or boxing day games next year.
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Old 12-27-2022, 11:20 PM   #257
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We have a some great individual talent on this team but no finish. The constant shuffling of lines and who is playing with who illustrates this problem.
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Let's just all agree that the Oilers suck and it was pretty evident again tonight they won't win anything without being given PP opportunities. I'm not happy about the game but hey it's not like we have to worry about seeing a cup up north of us anytime soon.

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Better team won. Oilers didn't generate as many shots but still generated a ton of scoring chances. Markstrom had to make a lot more tough saves.

Huberdaeu sucks. He's going to be a 50 point player here. He's a major major disappointment.

This team needs to get on a nice, long losing streak before the deadline. I'm not letting a few wins against sj and Anaheim fool me.
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