10-27-2022, 03:08 PM
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#241
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
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Material escalation causing a billionaire owner to get cold feet isn't partisan.
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10-27-2022, 04:05 PM
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#242
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by USflamesfan
Its pretty easy for me being from the US to see who's conservative and liberal from this feed...lol
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Ohhh fun!!! Broad strokes of partisanship, bring me glee. I voted against the Olympics plebiscite, and not aligned with the event centre financing.
Where do I fall politically dear sir?
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10-27-2022, 05:02 PM
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#243
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Hell
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mass_nerder
Demo is quick, but construction is certainly going to take more than an offseason.
For reference, I work for a firm that (semi) recently added a second rink to a BCHL arena. The building is obviously significantly less complicated than a new NHL arena would be.
It took 1 year to go from signing the fee agreement to getting into the ground.
It then took another 1.5 years to go from breaking ground to opening ceremony.
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oh ok, so probably looking at 2-3 years to build, i just wasn't taking into consideration if you demo the dome, the teams would have to move, makes more sense to build at different location and the teams play in the dome during construction.
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10-27-2022, 05:05 PM
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#244
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Hell
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Quote:
Originally Posted by getbak
There will be a 4 story above-ground parkade with space for 190 vehicles attached to the arena.
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indoor connected to the building or open sides like the existing? it would probably get more people in seats during the coldest nights if people could park in a heated parkade, walk through a couple doors and be inside. Would also save snow removal.
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10-27-2022, 05:15 PM
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#245
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cam_wmh
Ohhh fun!!! Broad strokes of partisanship, bring me glee. I voted against the Olympics plebiscite, and not aligned with the event centre financing.
Where do I fall politically dear sir?
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Clearly you are a right-wing anti-tax, antigovernment interventionist!
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10-27-2022, 05:26 PM
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#246
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cappy
Clearly you are a right-wing anti-tax, antigovernment interventionist!
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Worse. He's a Manchester United fan.
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10-27-2022, 07:03 PM
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#247
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Locke
Worse. He's a Manchester United fan.
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Hahahahaha
wait
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10-27-2022, 09:04 PM
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#248
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#1 Goaltender
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mass_nerder
Demo is quick, but construction is certainly going to take more than an offseason.
For reference, I work for a firm that (semi) recently added a second rink to a BCHL arena. The building is obviously significantly less complicated than a new NHL arena would be.
It took 1 year to go from signing the fee agreement to getting into the ground.
It then took another 1.5 years to go from breaking ground to opening ceremony.
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Timeline doesn't really need to be longer for a bigger more complicated project, a lot of the steps take the same amount of time, you just have bigger crews. Depending on the site and the construction plan, I think somewhere between 1 and 2 years is realistic for the construction phase of a big sports venue, and the preconstruction phase should be a good half year on top of that. Like you said though, not happening in 1 offseason if they want it in the Saddledomes footprint, the vic park stampede lots seem a lot more realistic, if they need to keep an NHL rink in operation during construction.
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10-27-2022, 11:31 PM
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#249
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Calgary
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Construction will be about three years from groundbreaking to opening, give or take a couple months.
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10-28-2022, 01:19 AM
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#250
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cam_wmh
Ohhh fun!!! Broad strokes of partisanship, bring me glee. I voted against the Olympics plebiscite, and not aligned with the event centre financing.
Where do I fall politically dear sir?
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Rhinoceros party would be my guess.
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10-28-2022, 01:26 AM
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#251
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by saillias
groaned when i saw premier getting involved in the arena discussions. Mainly because it turns something that should be happening between the Flames and the city into a public spectacle and political battleground. Now it's a partisan thing. Now Notley is weighing in and every know it all in Alberta thinks they're a genius because they discovered "Field of Schemes" and they're quoting how public money for private infrastructure actually isn't a good deal like we haven't heard it all before for 7 years. its just tiresome.
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Isn’t that what politicians do though?
Page 1 of the manual.
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10-28-2022, 08:39 AM
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#252
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: still in edmonton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by saillias
groaned when i saw premier getting involved in the arena discussions. Mainly because it turns something that should be happening between the Flames and the city into a public spectacle and political battleground. Now it's a partisan thing. Now Notley is weighing in and every know it all in Alberta thinks they're a genius because they discovered "Field of Schemes" and they're quoting how public money for private infrastructure actually isn't a good deal like we haven't heard it all before for 7 years. its just tiresome.
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The UCP wants municipal politicians to register formally as lobbyists so we're in for an even more, um, complex, relationship between the province and cites et al
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10-28-2022, 08:57 AM
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#253
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Powerplay Quarterback
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As a pastafarian I just hope they have good italian food options if they build the new Event centre.
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10-28-2022, 10:35 AM
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#254
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Not Abu Dhabi
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bdubbs
As a pastafarian I just hope they have good italian food options if they build the new Event centre.
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As if making this political wasn't bad enough, you had to drag religion into this too? Ugh!
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12-13-2022, 09:50 PM
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#255
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tromboner
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: where the lattes are
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https://calgary.citynews.ca/2022/12/...ome-arena-nhl/
With the Wranglers moving to Calgary, the Saddledome is now the third busiest arena in the NHL. So... umm... how many more concerts do we really need?
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12-13-2022, 10:09 PM
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#256
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Franchise Player
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my guess is they'd rather have concerts than the Wranglers. It's probably part of the reason why the Wranglers are there to begin with.
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12-13-2022, 10:09 PM
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#257
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by SebC
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because 2000 people at a wranglers game has the same economic impact of a sold out concert with $200 tickets
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12-13-2022, 10:10 PM
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#258
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by SebC
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They're dark for 5 straight days next week 
But at the end of the day I suspect AHL / WHL / NLL revenue is not equivalent to concert revenue.
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12-13-2022, 10:17 PM
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#259
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by dino7c
because 2000 people at a wranglers game has the same economic impact of a sold out concert with $200 tickets
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I don't think it's an attendance issue the facility looks worn out and having that many teams play makes the ice worse it seems.
I haven't been to other arenas but 2 toilets in a bathroom is normal for 10k people? God forbid you get the runs.
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12-13-2022, 10:19 PM
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#260
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In the Sin Bin
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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
I don't think it's an attendance issue the facility looks worn out and having that many teams play makes the ice worse it seems.
I haven't been to other arenas but 2 toilets in a bathroom is normal for 10k people? God forbid you get the runs.
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head up to the nosebleeds...if you can make it
best place to poop and get snacks
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