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Old 04-12-2021, 01:20 PM   #241
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To a rational fan, sure.
Sports marketing isn't about making their fans act rationally!
It's also more fun to actually like the guys wearing the logo.
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Old 04-12-2021, 01:20 PM   #242
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Heineman apparently sucks, I don't know if he adds much value to the deal except cosmetically since he was a second rounder last year that was picked off board.

A second rounder is what I expected Sam would get, good deal and good job Treliving.
I wouldn't say "sucks", but he projects to being a bottom 6 winger overall. Has plenty of good attributes that make the NHL a real possibility, but if anyone expects a top 6 player, you need to adjust your expectations for what the kid could be. He is still a project, so at least a couple of seasons before you could potentially see him crack a lineup.
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A Florida fan on hf said Emil Heineman is a Tkachuk-lite and the Flames won this deal. Personally, I would really like another Tkachuk without having to pay for a real one.
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Based on some of the comments on HF and his stats. I don't claim to know anything about the player. But doesn't seem top six material.
Isn't HF like 90% Oiler fans?
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Thank god this is done and over with! I hope Bennett does start to turn his game around and do well. All the best Sam!
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Old 04-12-2021, 01:23 PM   #246
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He's the type that can fit anywhere in the lineup and play any role. There's a strong push to his stride, which gives him added acceleration and top speed while skating in a straight line. He's always got his feet moving, always maintains a high battle-level, and never shies away from making personal sacrifices to improve the two-way health of his team. -EliteProspects 2020 NHL Draft Guide
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Old 04-12-2021, 01:23 PM   #247
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Based on some of the comments on HF and his stats. I don't claim to know anything about the player. But doesn't seem top six material.
Fair enough, Bennett wasn't either, if the Flames end up with a bottom 6 guy then an even better trade.

Stats wise, he sounds okay even though the total sucks based on some comparables.
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I'd like a second and prospect if possible.
Good call.
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Old 04-12-2021, 01:24 PM   #249
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Good luck Sam.


Hopefully we give Phillips a try now:
Lucic - Backlund - Phillips
Nordstrom - Ryan - Ritchie/Leivo
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Craig Button says Heineman is a real quick powerful skater that attacks the net and took a big stride in his game last year. Closer to making the transition to pro hockey in North America. Attacks the dots, won't be denied in the hard areas, etc.
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So, instead of getting Hyman from the Leafs, Flames got a Heineman from the Panthers! Hope he won't stink like a c###!

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Old 04-12-2021, 01:25 PM   #252
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Key is the way Bennett is playing for the Flames, they would have trouble qualifying him even if he is not picked by Seattle

Bennett value will never be higher than now for the Flames due to the playoffs hype

At 3M or so next year, he may not even get picked up off waiver
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good trade. Bennett's playoff performance is a bit exaggerated imo.
I’ll always remember his goals that didn’t count.
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Old 04-12-2021, 01:26 PM   #254
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This is a fantastic piece of business by Tre.

Holding out on value for Bennett bodes well for the value of Johnny/Monny this offseason.

Objective should be stockpile picks to give yourselves a chance to move up if need be in next year/the year after's draft. And if need be, godfather offer for Wright/Bedard.
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Basically two 2nd rounder for Bennett.
I think the odds of one of them being as impactful or more impactful than Bennett are pretty good.
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Fair enough, Bennett wasn't either, if the Flames end up with a bottom 6 guy then an even better trade.

Stats wise, he sounds okay even though the total sucks based on some comparables.
A much cheaper bottom 6 replacement because that’s all Bennett was
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good trade. Bennett's playoff performance is a bit exaggerated imo.
Repeating what I wrote earlier

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"There is a misconception that Sam Bennett goes into beast mode in the playoffs..thats not true...its just him actually playing to his potential".

Kelly not a huge fan apparently.
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This is a fantastic piece of business by Tre.

Holding out on value for Bennett bodes well for the value of Johnny/Monny this offseason.

Objective should be stockpile picks to give yourselves a chance to move up if need be in next year/the year after's draft. And if need be, godfather offer for Wright/Bedard.
Do either of those players project as #1Cs?
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Old 04-12-2021, 01:28 PM   #259
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I mean... at the end of the day, we still traded a fourth overall pick for a mid second-round pick and another mid-late second-round pick (depending on where Florida finishes).

That's probably 60% on Bennett, 35% on coaching and 5% on drafting.
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Do either of those players project as #1Cs?
Bedard in his very short season was ridiculous

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