[PGT] Bad final 40 sinks Flames

[MonaTone]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Problem with Mantha is his GAF meter is also not always great

I genuinely, and maybe too optimistically wonder if that is just a byproduct of being in Detroit?

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by Phaneuf_Phan

oh crap - maybe Ward wasn't the problem

Anyone thinking Ward was the only problem is wrong.

At the same time, they didn’t change systems over night. This was still Ward’s system.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Originally Posted by MonaTone

I genuinely, and maybe too optimistically wonder if that is just a byproduct of being in Detroit?

Those concerns go back to his junior days
I’m not opposed to the idea as it would help the rw issue
But he’s a flawed player

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by zamler

Toronto masterfully shut down McDavid, put all their effort into keeping him off the score sheet didn't worry about much else. Didn't need to. Tonight, Flames did their usual spread the wealth around. Failed as usual.

Ya Calgary isn't near toronto roster wise and rarely will be. Toronto will always attract bigger name players at lower rates. The market just will never be the same.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by ComixZone

Mikael Backlund was horse#%^* tonight.

Darryl needs to get here.

Not a good night for Markstrom.

Didn’t drive the net enough.

Anderson and Monahan were garbage too.

Played better but a handful of passengers tonight. They need to start seriously shortening the bench in tight games. Keep Giordano away from mcdavid and find someone for johnny to play with.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by Scary Eloranta

If anyone thinks Sutter is going to be able to squeeze out another goal out of this pop gun offence, you have rocks in your head. We simply do not have enough talent.


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Ward got them to 2nd overall so....

[MonaTone]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Those concerns go back to his junior days
I’m not opposed to the idea as it would help the rw issue
But he’s a flawed player

Completely fair, my understanding of the player is solely seeing him vs the Flames or random other games I catch.

Just being a Flames fan is basically having a constant hard-on for that elusive big skilled GAF player that can drive a team to win.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

She needs to be fired. She is beyond brutal.

My issue with Cassie is she rambles on too much when she gives commentary on the game. Keep it short and concise.

[djsFlames]

Probably the best part of Sutter coming in is he will weed out the guys that don't sincerely want to put the work in to be a part of the solution.

I suspect that there's a small handful of them and they're not necessarily playing minor roles for the team.

[3rd liner]

Missed the game watching UFC but got the game summary from CP rather than listen to the Mcdingleberry fellat-a-thon that is sportsnet. Really surprised Lucic actually fought dumb-nell. Good for him. I will give nurse credit for taking the fight as well- he is usually the fakest of the fake tough guys. Neal is such a tool. After the fight he probably went to the room to polish his teeth and look in the mirror . I guess Leon is the new fake tough guy- mangiapane and gaudreau? Wow. We need somebody in his weight class to run over him. Not sure what his weight class is because the pussycat never fights. Settle for bennet running him through the boards.

[AC]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

Problem with Mantha is his GAF meter is also not always great

Yeah he's definitely a flawed player. But most players that are available via trade probably are (except Mark Stone...)

Still, he's scored 25 and 24 goals before and the hope is obviously that he might be a good option for our top 6.

Viktor Arvidsson is another that really intrigues me. We've heard Nashville only has 3 untouchables, and none of them are forwards. Forsberg likely costs too much to be feasible, but Arvidsson?

27, right shot RW. 3 more years at $4.25M and has previously scored 31, 29, and 34 goals. I didn't realize he's only 5'9" I would have guessed taller based on how he plays.

[Strange Brew]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

And when he connects and sends it deep, he backs away for his line change - free exit for the Oilers.

I prefer having that line go for a change vs defending when the Oilers have the luck.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by badradio

Bennett is not the answer for the first line... I think you have to put Lindholm there and bump Ryan or Backlund to the 2nd line Center until you can find a RW... the answer isn’t Leivo or Simon either... I don’t know where the answer is unless it’s a trade or ufa pickup...

I’m thinking they should move johnny of the monahan line. He needs some help. Monahan was a ghost tonight and leivo is useless.

It’s basically 1 on 3 all the time.

[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by Dion

My issue with Cassie is she rambles on too much when she gives commentary on the game. Keep it short and concise.

I went too far with one comment I made so will stop. But the reality for me at least is that she makes watching (particularly games against EDM) totally unenjoyable. So I will either not bother watching or turn off the sound.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by MacFlame

I think lindholm is the best centre they have, but he’s a very good #2. I don’t see him as a #1 right now, maybe he turns into that under sutter, I don’t know. I don’t think Backlund had a terrible game tonight. I thought he was adequate.
I thought that there were two goals that could have been prevented tonight if lindholm took the body...but I’m probably just being picky and would probably change my tune if I rewatched it.

Monahans problem is different than the other two imo...he’s being counted on to be a driving force offensively for this team...but he is just so ineffective on the forecheck that it hurts his line considerably, particularly because Johnny isnt going to be that player either. The problem with monahan is that you can’t put him anywhere else in the lineup because the other two centres are better defensively and physically than him. If he’s not putting up points, he really isn’t contributing a whole lot.

Monahan is good at one thing. Putting the puck in the net from the slot. If he’s not doing that he is invisible.

[AustinL_NHL]

Lindholm agrees that they let things go in the final 40

https://twitter.com/user/status/1368449512780394497

Again, excellent first period but consistency is still a big issue.

Sutter can't come soon enough.

[Bend it like Bourgeois]

Negativity in this thread is nuts.

I don’t care whether the flames can win a coin flip game with a one line team (whose one line is crazy dominant). I care if they can win against a four line team in the 3rd or 4th round.

The answer might be not prove yes in time but the starting point is whether they are willing. Tonight was a solid yes. For the first time since chucky got hurt against Dallas.

For one night, the flames proved their biggest issue wrong. Conversely, the coilers proved every criticism right. I’m fine.

[jg13]

Originally Posted by Dion

https://twitter.com/user/status/1368236809528823811

Hands down the most cringe and worst boring Monahan tweet I’ve yet to see

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Manhattanboy

I went too far with one comment I made so will stop. But the reality for me at least is that she makes watching (particularly games against EDM) totally unenjoyable. So I will either not bother watching or turn off the sound.

I don't mind her when she's doing her thing between periods.

[Jeff Lebowski]

21 shots in first period. Then 15 shots over the next 2. Have to get at least 10 a period.