Unpopular Opinions about Flames

[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I feel he's average. Having an average GM is not a bad thing when you consider the damage a bad GM can do to an organization. Do a lot of fans feel he's a top GM?

Well, I got ripped by more than a few when I suggested his grades took a big hit at the deadline and through the off season. But I really wanted Stone and would have given up prospects so what do I know?

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

My unpopular opinion is fairly well known: that the Flames will have a hard time winning with Johnny Gaudreau as their top forward, and next summer they should seriously consider trading him to maximize his value.

Trading him for what / who?

[Frank MetaMusil]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Trading him for what / who?

I don't think he cares. Jiri had him traded before the ink was dry on his contract

[GioforPM]

IIRC "Wizard" was mainly in respect of Treliving's earlier contract renewals - Gio, Brodie, Johnny, Monahan. Then Lindholm and Hanifin afterwards.

[Itse]

I couldn't think of an unpopular opinion for a while there, but pretty sure this is up there.

Frolik should be treated more like Neal got treated or Bennett gets treated: instead of demoting him after a bad start of less than 2 games, try to build him up by giving him some time on the (2nd) PP and the occasional shift with the 1st line to get his mojo back and his confidence up.

If Frolik does not bounce back, the depth on wings for this teams is kind of crap, and the 'tough love' Peters is giving Frolik has not been very effective.

EDIT:

I realized mine was an unpopular opinion when I tried to balance the offense by putting Lindholm with Tkachuk, and came up with this:

Gaudreau - Monahan - Frolik
Tkachuk - Lindholm - Bennett
Mangiapane - Backlund - Ryan
Lucic - Jankowski - Rieder.

And realized I'm probably like the only guy who thinks this makes any sense

But if Lindholm goes with Tkachuk, you only have one winger left who has a previous track of being able to constantly play against the very best lines in the league, and that's Frolik. Who also has the best career .ppg out of the bunch I believe. He makes sense on the 1st line (given the premise of Tkachuk and Lindholm on the 2nd line.)

Then you'd have Mangiapane with Backlund AKA "The Rookie Whisperer", plus Ryan who I think fits nicely with that line especially considering the way him and Eatbread clicked at the end of last season.

These lines look just fine to me. If you want to give Bennett a chance at center with good wingers, you switch Bennett and Lindholm and you've got it.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Itse

I couldn't think of an unpopular opinion for a while there, but pretty sure this is up there.

Frolik should be treated more like Neal got treated or Bennett gets treated: instead of demoting him after a bad start of less than 2 games, try to build him up by giving him some time on the (2nd) PP and the occasional shift with the 1st line to get his mojo back and his confidence up.

If Frolik does not bounce back, the depth on wings for this teams is kind of crap, and the 'tough love' Peters is giving Frolik has not been very effective.

Hasn't it? Last year he played his best hockey after coming back from a healthy scratch

[FlamesFanFromBC]

#14 should be retired in the Saddledome

[Itse]

Originally Posted by btimbit

Hasn't it? Last year he played his best hockey after coming back from a healthy scratch

His best hockey? Really?

I feel people forget how not that far back Frolik was considered to be maybe the most consistent forward on the team and a big part of an occasionally frickin' dominant line.

Consistently high effort level used to be one of the first things mentioned about Frolik, but Peters can get a really good game out of him maybe 50% of the time.

Sure, Frolik started to have rough time under the previous coach too, so I'm not saying it's all Bill's fault.

... but I do think Frolik should be a bit higher on the list of guys Peters puts on the PP than 25th.

I mean, to me there's a rather obvious difference between Frolik and guys like Peluso and Prout.

[1qqaaz]

I think Feaster was fine as a GM:
-I don't put much weight in the O'Reilly thing. A lot of GMs at the time seemed to agree that it probably would have been nothing.
-The return for Iginla wasn't that bad considering he was only going to be moved to one team, and he was an old 60 point UFA
-Drafting really improved. All of his 2011 picks spent time in the NHL.
-He wasn't even allow to start the rebuild until later on, and Sutter left him with no assets but a bunch of bad contracts
-He hired Snow, who is now the Assistant GM, and Bob Hartley, who won the Jack Adams
-Hudler was a good signing. Wideman signing isn't nearly as bad as people seem to recall. Scott Hannah was on a good contract as well. Feaster didn't really miss on UFA signings.
-Kris Russell was acquired for next to nothing.
-He acquired Stempniak for an aging injured Lankow, then extended Stempniak to a great contract
-Jankowski pick wasn't that bad in hindsight

[Strange Brew]

Acquiring Kris Russell for a 5th round pick was a hell of a trade for Feaster and the Flames. One of the few steals this organization has had in trades in recent memory.

[ComixZone]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

I think Feaster was fine as a GM:
-Jankowski pick wasn't that bad in hindsight

Feaster traded the 14th pick for the 21st and 42nd.

Here are picks 14-20:

Girgensons
Ceci
Wilson
Hertl
Teravainen
Vasilevskiy
Laughton

The Jankowski pick may not have been bad at 21, but the friggin' trade was awful. Sieloff and Jankowski instead of Ceci, Wilson, Hertl, Teravainen or Vasilevskiy (hypothetical, I know yatta yatta)?

[SportsJunky]

Ceci sucks. So does Girgensons but I get your point.

[SportsJunky]

Originally Posted by Dion

My unpopular opinion:

I don't like it when teams use the terms upper and lower body to describe player injuries.

Every time I see a player note on Yahoo with the player name followed by (UBI) I immediately think UTI.

[alnigi]

Originally Posted by SportsJunky

Every time I see a player note on Yahoo with the player name followed by (UBI) I immediately think UTI.

And then there is a UPI .... Unidentified Party Injury

[Joborule]

Originally Posted by Tyler

Watch the video below before you call me a liar you POS

Wow. So extra.

Originally Posted by dammage79

The infatuation Flames fans have with the Oilers and their well being or lack there of, dumbest thing I ever did see. A lot of "Flames fans" spend far too much time following the team up the road. It's rather disgusting.

I agree with this. I get they're a rival, and honestly, the way the organization has been over the past decade, has been fantastic entertainment, and I've enjoyed each minute of it, but I do feel on this board that we give that team a lot more attention than justified. They suck, and they will always suck. It's old news.

I suppose though with the Flames franchise not amount to much themselves over the course of their history (coincidentally both teams have been trash post 80s), I guess we indulge in their schadenfreude excessively. But as I mentioned, the Oilers have made it very easy to do so.

[Duffalufagus]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

While Mikael Backlund is better defensively, and Sean Monahan is better offensively, Sam Bennett is the Flames' most complete center and could really impact the game if he were logging 18+ minutes a game with quality wingers.

I will never understand how people can say this. Sam Bennett, the flames highest ever draft pick, has basically been a bust. He has no finish, and only adds value as a grinder (some of the time). To suggest that he is our “most complete” centre is bananas. You know, because he’s not even a centre on the team and stuff.

Total disappointment based on expectations.

[Hackey]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

I think Feaster was fine as a GM:
-I don't put much weight in the O'Reilly thing. A lot of GMs at the time seemed to agree that it probably would have been nothing.
-The return for Iginla wasn't that bad considering he was only going to be moved to one team, and he was an old 60 point UFA
-Drafting really improved. All of his 2011 picks spent time in the NHL.
-He wasn't even allow to start the rebuild until later on, and Sutter left him with no assets but a bunch of bad contracts
-He hired Snow, who is now the Assistant GM, and Bob Hartley, who won the Jack Adams
-Hudler was a good signing. Wideman signing isn't nearly as bad as people seem to recall. Scott Hannah was on a good contract as well. Feaster didn't really miss on UFA signings.
-Kris Russell was acquired for next to nothing.
-He acquired Stempniak for an aging injured Lankow, then extended Stempniak to a great contract
-Jankowski pick wasn't that bad in hindsight

Basically you know he was a crappy GM when you say:

- I don't put much weight in his huge mistake.
- I don't put much weight in him getting nothing for the biggest star in franchise history.
- Drafting has "improved" yet all his picks have basically turned into nothing. Baertschi waivers, Grandlund plug, Poirier AHLer, Klimchuk AHLer, Sieloff, Wotherspoon, Gillies. Basically Trelivings 2015 draft of Rasmus, Kylington, Mangiapane is better than Feasters entire career.
- The Wideman signing wasn't THAT BAD.
- Big trades were aquiring Kris Russell and Lee Stempniak lol.
- Jankowski wasn't so bad even though we could have had Hertl, Teravainen, Vasilevsky, Wilson, Matta.

These are suppose to be highlights? My god that sounds terrible or lack luster at best. Can't shine a turd my friend.

[TheSquatch]

Originally Posted by Hackey

- Jankowski wasn't so bad even though we could have had Hertl, Teravainen, Vasilevsky, Wilson, Matta.

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Wow, that does hurt, put like that. Phaneuf with Getzlaf on the board looks bad now, but... not that bad.

[TheRealPepman]

I love Derek Wills. That's all.

[Weitz]

Interesting thread. Probably a lot of the “unpopular opinions” are really just opinions held by fans of other teams.

But kipper not elite/is overrated? That’s not unpopular. It’s stupid.