[Rumour] Flames closing in on Maroon?

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Originally Posted by bcneil

Nobody wants him and it's too late for this years buyout.
But can't we still sign Maroon. Then buyout Brouwer next summer?

Do we have any RFA’s with arbitration rights? If so, I believe there’s a buyout period afterwards.

[AC]

Originally Posted by bcneil

Nobody wants him and it's too late for this years buyout.
But can't we still sign Maroon. Then buyout Brouwer next summer?

We currently have $12,863,290 to sign Hanifin, Lindholm, Hathaway, Jankowski, Kulak, Rittich, and Gillies. Though one of the goalies will go to the AHL.

[Travis Munroe]

Originally Posted by AC

We currently have $12,863,290 to sign Hanifin, Lindholm, Hathaway, Jankowski, Kulak, Rittich, and Gillies. Though one of the goalies will go to the AHL.

Highly unlikely but hoping to get Hanifin and Lindholm locked up long term. That would eat up about 11m of the 12.8.

If Brouwer can be bought out, it would leave enough to get everyone else done. and leave us with a solid lineup for years to come. I guess it comes down to ownership being willing to pony up today and end up saving down the line on skipping the bridge contract.

[David Struch]

The Flames could potentially create the cap space needed to sign Maroon just by buying out Brouwer and trading Stone for a pick.


Gaudreau (6.75) - Monahan (6.375) - Neal (5.75)
Tkachuk (.925) - Lindholm (5.35) - _______
Frolík (4.3) - Backlund (5.35) - Ryan (3.125)
Jankowski (1.075) - Quine (700,000) - Bennett (1.9)
Lazar (.95)

Giordano (6.75) - Brodie (4.650,4)
Hanifin (5.35) - Hamonic (3.857,143)
Kulak (.715) - Andersson (.755,833)
Prout (800,000)

Smith (4.25)
Rittich (.740,000)

Buyouts:
Lance Bouma: $766,667
Ryan Murphy: $137,500
Troy Brouwer: $1,500,000

Salary Cap: $79,500,000
Cap Hit: $73,422,543
Bonuses: $932,500
Cap Space: $6,077,457

[Vinny01]

If they could trade Frolik for a 2nd (Jets maybe) I would be okay pursuing Maroon on a deal around 3.5 for 3 years. Listening t Treliving today though the Flames are done. Maroon was old B but he was able to land plan A in Neal

[Calgary4LIfe]

I am still fine with Frolik being on the team. He offers a tonne of forechecking pressure, and he also pots about 15 goals a season. Last year with his injury it was a bit of a down year for him - only 10 goals - but I actually expect a bit of a rebound year for him. Frolik is still a solid player that contributes well, and I would rather have him than Maroon to be honest.

[Flamescuprun2018]

Originally Posted by David Struch

The Flames could potentially create the cap space needed to sign Maroon just by buying out Brouwer and trading Stone for a pick.


Gaudreau (6.75) - Monahan (6.375) - Neal
Tkachuk (.925) - Lindholm (5.35) - _______
Frolík (4.3) - Backlund (5.35) - Ryan (3.125)
Jankowski (1.075) - Quine (700,000) - Bennett (1.9)
Lazar (.95)

Giordano (6.75) - Brodie (4.650,4)
Hanifin (5.35) - Hamonic (3.857,143)
Kulak (.715) - Andersson (.755,833)
Prout (800,000)

Smith (4.25)
Rittich (.740,000)

Buyouts:
Lance Bouma: $766,667
Ryan Murphy: $137,500
Troy Brouwer: $1,500,000

Salary Cap: $79,500,000
Cap Hit: $73,422,543
Bonuses: $932,500
Cap Space: $6,077,457

No room for another UFA with Hanifan and Lindholm RFA contracts pending.

A Frolik or Stone cap dump trade needed just to avoid bridge deal for Hanifan.

I cannot see them move Frolik until Foo/Czarnik displaces him nor Stone until Andersson proves he is ready.

BT now shifts focus to contracts.

[Niemo]

Attaching a 3rd with Brouwer in order to sign Maroon could be a worthwhile move. Who knows who will be our goalie after this year!

[Flamescuprun2018]

Originally Posted by Niemo

Attaching a 3rd with Brouwer in order to sign Maroon could be a worthwhile move. Who knows who will be our goalie after this year!

This upcoming 2019 draft class is supposedly quite good. Lets keep the few picks we have and add one or two more with Frolik or Stone moves later in the season once we know if Czarnik and others ready.

Need to restock the cupboards with only five picks this year and currently four picks next year.

[keenan87]

Is there a chance the Flames can still sign Maroon to a cheap deal and dump Brouwer in the process? That would be a really good starting forward line-up.

Gaudreau-Monahan-Neal
Tkachuk-Jankowski-Lindholm
Bennett-Backlund-Maroon
Czarnik-Ryan-Frolik
Foo and Mangiapane

[Poe969]

I think if they find a way to trade away one or two players, Maroon gets signed but I can't see them signing him until then if at all anymore.

[GioforPM]

I wonder if Maroon has screwed himself a bit. He must have had some offers, and maybe from teams that went elsewhere because he didn't accept and tried to get more money.

I see his stats in NJ, but I didn't see him play. Maybe he just didn't look that good away from McDavid and at 30, teams are worried he would be a 20 point guy or so. It wouldn't take a huge downturn to get him there.

[Roof-Daddy]

They way I see it, we have a nearly full roster now with just one spot left for the following players to fight for:

Brouwer
Lazar
Foo
Hathaway
Mangiapane
Dube
Ehliz
Quine
Shinkaruk
Klimchuk

Anyways, I really don't think we need Maroon anymore. There is a ton of depth.

[The Cobra]

Originally Posted by Niemo

Attaching a 3rd with Brouwer in order to sign Maroon could be a worthwhile move. Who knows who will be our goalie after this year!

I doubt anyone takes that much cap space for a 3rd round pick.

Not when there would be cheaper and better players available on 1 year deals.

Once Brouwer gets into his last year, the chances go up.

[sureLoss]

Look at what it cost the Jets to dump 1 year of Mason's $4.1 mil contract in an attempt to sign Statsny.

a 30 point forward and a 4th. (Simon Bourque for a 7th round pick balances out)

No one is going to do the Flames a favour and take Brouwer's salary for just a mid or low pick. Even with salary retention, it will be a hard deal to make.

[PugnaciousIntern]

I don’t really see a world where Maroon doesn’t sign with the Blues. I’m sure they’re low-balling him because they have the leverage, but not only is the city perfect for him, but he’s also a prototypical Blues forward. It just makes too much sense

[PugnaciousIntern]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Look at what it cost the Jets to dump 1 year of Mason's $4.1 mil contract in an attempt to sign Statsny.

a 30 point forward and a 4th. (Simon Bourque for a 7th round pick balances out)

No one is going to do the Flames a favour and take Brouwer's salary for just a mid or low pick. Even with salary retention, it will be a hard deal to make.

How does it work when a team trades a player with salary retained, then the receiving team buys out the player? Does the cap structure of the original team then change to adapt to the buyout pattern, or are they only on the hook for the original years of the contract when the player was traded?

Not sure if I’m making much sense. If we were to trade Brouwer now with 50% retained, and the other team buys him out, does the other team’s decision to buy him out affect our cap hit / duration, as if he were bought out by us (but 50% cheaper)?

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Look at what it cost the Jets to dump 1 year of Mason's $4.1 mil contract in an attempt to sign Statsny.

a 30 point forward and a 4th. (Simon Bourque for a 7th round pick balances out)

No one is going to do the Flames a favour and take Brouwer's salary for just a mid or low pick. Even with salary retention, it will be a hard deal to make.

I think fans need to accept he's going to be on the team for one more season and then likely bought out next offseason.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by PugnaciousIntern

How does it work when a team trades a player with salary retained, then the receiving team buys out the player? Does the cap structure of the original team then change to adapt to the buyout pattern, or are they only on the hook for the original years of the contract when the player was traded?

Not sure if I’m making much sense. If we were to trade Brouwer now with 50% retained, and the other team buys him out, does the other team’s decision to buy him out affect our cap hit / duration, as if he were bought out by us (but 50% cheaper)?

IIRC the buyout cap hit is shared between the two teams by the same salary retention %

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

I think fans need to accept he's going to be on the team for one more season and then likely bought out next offseason.

Yup. They are in no rush to do anything other than that.

Enticing a team to take on his salary is poor asset management.