10-02-2017, 07:02 AM
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#241
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Regarding speed, I think Poirier is back up with the team by late February around the deadline.
Gaudreau-Monahan- Ferland
Jagr- Bennett- Versteeg
Tkachuk- Backlund- Frolik
Poirier- Jankowski-Brouwer
Lazar
Stajan
That's a fast team. The fact that Versteeg looks quick this year is huge, his offseason training did him wonders.
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Originally Posted by prizefighterinferno
This would be amazing for a number of reasons, not least of which is it would allow for the possibility of either
Versteeg-Bennett-Jagr or Bennett-Jankowski-Jagr.
Please God let this happen.
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How about an all size line:
Tkachuk - Jankowski - Jagr
They will take the puck from you. Just try taking the puck back from them.
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Last edited by GranteedEV; 10-02-2017 at 07:11 AM.
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10-02-2017, 07:02 AM
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#242
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Thunder Bay Ontario
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I don't think the team has to be extremely fast overall if they play smart. Jagr plays smart. Jagr makes the people around him play smarter and better.
I can see why the Flames waited this long to sign him (if they do), they wanted to give everyone else a chance to prove they deserved the spot more but no one has.
The only bad thing about this signing IMO is the timing, I've wanted this to happen for years. I think now the moons aligned and everything will work out really well though.
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10-02-2017, 07:07 AM
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#243
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by JFK
Bingo does..
It takes about two minutes to find out what a fraud he is.
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I did after the Foo signing, he seemed to have a line on something there. But his Jagr baiting after that had me drop him.
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10-02-2017, 07:14 AM
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#244
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Bonavista, Newfoundland
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Adding Jagr to the mix really opens up the possibilities. This is how I'd roll them out, the first three lines in no particular order...
Gaudreau - Bennett - Ferland
Tkachuk - Monahan - Jagr
Jankowski - Backlund - Frolik
Versteeg - Stajan - Brouwer
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10-02-2017, 07:15 AM
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#245
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Vancouver
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I get the enthusiasm for signing a future hall of famer and Jagr would bring massive personality to the team, but put me in the camp of not thinking he's a good fit. He can't keep up with the speed of Bennett / Gaudreau on the rush and is he any better than Iginla would be on the backcheck? I don't think so. I think what will happen is that the teams 'system' will be compromised to accommodate Jagr every time he steps foot on the ice, and if the team plays 'down' to Jagr's existing strengths (puck protection, cycling in offensive zone, passes through seams) they can have success, but is it worth rocking the whole system boat for one guy? I think Florida and other GM's realize it's not worth it.
Not to mention Jagr's special needs to survive the whole season of a western conference travel schedule, his private warm up routines, private practicing, etc.
Sorry to be a wet blanket on the thread, but I'm hoping the signing doesn't materialize.
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10-02-2017, 07:20 AM
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#246
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Austria, NOT Australia
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I'm so torn. He's super old, he's slow, he's not a good backchecker, he's probably quite expensive ... but it's Jagr. All those rational thoughts go out of the window when I imagine Jaromir frickin Jagr doing the salute while wearing the flaming C.
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10-02-2017, 07:22 AM
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#247
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Franchise Player
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UPD: Flames/Jagr talks "getting serious"
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Originally Posted by devo22
I'm so torn. He's super old, he's slow, he's not a good backchecker, he's probably quite expensive ... but it's Jagr. All those rational thoughts go out of the window when I imagine Jaromir frickin Jagr doing the salute while wearing the flaming C.
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This post reads like it’s about a different player. Certainly it isn’t about a player who put up 46 points last year and 66 points the year before.
He’s also a possession beast and one of the best minds in hockey.
No need to backcheck when you always have the puck.
Also, it’s just unfair to stick Bennett with Brouwer for 2 straight seasons.
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10-02-2017, 07:22 AM
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#248
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Could Care Less
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Jagr would be playing 3rd line minutes on RW, and PP time. Is he an upgrade on Troy Brouwer who is currently in that slot? Does the PP need more creativity and help?
The answer to both questions is unequivocally yes. None of the kids stepped up. Sign him for the year.
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10-02-2017, 07:25 AM
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#249
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Freddy
I get the enthusiasm for signing a future hall of famer and Jagr would bring massive personality to the team, but put me in the camp of not thinking he's a good fit. He can't keep up with the speed of Bennett / Gaudreau on the rush and is he any better than Iginla would be on the backcheck? I don't think so. I think what will happen is that the teams 'system' will be compromised to accommodate Jagr every time he steps foot on the ice, and if the team plays 'down' to Jagr's existing strengths (puck protection, cycling in offensive zone, passes through seams) they can have success, but is it worth rocking the whole system boat for one guy? I think Florida and other GM's realize it's not worth it.
Not to mention Jagr's special needs to survive the whole season of a western conference travel schedule, his private warm up routines, private practicing, etc.
Sorry to be a wet blanket on the thread, but I'm hoping the signing doesn't materialize.
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Jagr has played more systems than you can shake a stick at and is still scoring at second line level.
He can do more with 2 steps than most with 20.
I'm not too worried everything is going to change to accommodate him hall of fame or not
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10-02-2017, 07:27 AM
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#250
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: Calgary, AB
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This has to be the first rumored UFA signing in Flames history where nobody on CP is complaining about salary
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10-02-2017, 07:33 AM
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#251
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: California
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wireframe
This has to be the first rumored UFA signing in Flames history where nobody on CP is complaining about salary
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I'm worried about Bonus carryover to next year. But pay him all we have this year
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10-02-2017, 07:33 AM
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#252
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Why is everyone spelling "Iginla" wrong?
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10-02-2017, 07:34 AM
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#253
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wireframe
This has to be the first rumored UFA signing in Flames history where nobody on CP is complaining about salary
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Well, wait for the terms to be released, because I promise someone will.
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10-02-2017, 07:39 AM
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#254
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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I never want to see Brouwer on the Powerplay again.
Still kind of worried about St. Louis though. Wouldn't be the first time they snatched a HOT from Calgary.
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10-02-2017, 07:42 AM
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#255
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Feb 2003
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If this happens and I hope it does, shirt sales alone should just about pay his wage! It will also raise interest within the city I would imagine and add a load of fun factor.
Ps you can take that A off Brouwer as it will have another shirt to go on.
Last edited by Britflamesfan; 10-02-2017 at 07:44 AM.
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10-02-2017, 07:50 AM
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#256
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#1 Goaltender
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Where is the announcement!?!?
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10-02-2017, 07:53 AM
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#257
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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I am on board with this!
Gaudreau-Monahan-Ferland
Tkachuk-Backlund-Frolik
Versteeg-Bennett-Jagr
Stajan-Jankowski-Brouwer
I am okay with Stajan but man does it suck to have Brouwer on the fourth line making 4+ mil... can't believe he still has 3 more years left. Vegas can use him, no?!?
Last edited by keenan87; 10-02-2017 at 07:59 AM.
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10-02-2017, 07:57 AM
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#258
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Franchise Player
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If they sign Jagr, Brouwer just doesn't fit
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10-02-2017, 07:58 AM
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#259
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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If Jagr signs is it not likely that Stajan is waived?
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10-02-2017, 07:59 AM
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#260
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Machiavelli
If they sign Jagr, Brouwer just doesn't fit
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He doesn't fit regardless. 4th line RW if thisnsigning happens
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