@CMPunk, Textcritic, Benched: That is the strangest thing I have ever heard, but I guess...NHL?
It's just a way of reporting the standings as they are today. And it has always been reported this way as far as I can remember (and I'm old). As a matter of opinion, I'd be pretty PO'd if the Flames had played 5 less games than a rival, but had the same points, and were nonethless reported as being behind. If Edmonton loses their game against the Pens tonight you will see the standings reversed. Go Pens Go.
Textcritic is correct, it's meaningless at the end of the season because everyone will then have played the same number of games, and that's why it's not an official tiebreaker.
Games played is the first tie-breaker, and Edmonton has one game in hand.
It is a meaningless tie-breaker since it does not apply at the end of the season. The Flames hold the first relevant tie-breaker.
How is it meaningless?
If a team has games in hand, the expectation would be that they would continue to earn points at the rate they have earned them so far (roughly a .550 pace, or 1 point per game).
Are you suggesting team 1 in the example below should be considered ahead in the standings vs team 2?:
Team 1: 35-35-5 75 pts (75 games played)
Team 2: 34-29-7 75 pts (70 games played)
just because they have the extra W? (assume all Ws are ROWs)
The Oilers should be listed in 3rd right now.
And when they lose tonight and fall to the wild card spot, it will be gloriously salty
If a team has games in hand, the expectation would be that they would continue to earn points at the rate they have earned them so far (roughly a .550 pace, or 1 point per game).
Are you suggesting team 1 in the example below should be considered ahead in the standings vs team 2?:
Team 1: 35-35-5 75 pts (75 games played)
Team 2: 34-29-7 75 pts (70 games played)
just because they have the extra W? (assume all Ws are ROWs)
The Oilers should be listed in 3rd right now.
And when they lose tonight and fall to the wild card spot, it will be gloriously salty
As I said, it is meaningless because at the end of the season when the playoffs are made or missed every team will have played the same number of games. I have no problem with how the NHL has chosen to rank teams in the course of the season, and I completely agree with you in this regard. My point was that games in hand are not a definitive tie-breaker like ROW, Season Series, and Aggregate Score. In the end, it doesn't matter.
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Damn. Flames are butchering all their opponents. Im scared, friends.
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Nylander and Tkachuck both having good nights. Bo's alternate reality wingers.
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Watching Tkachuck play hurts—incredibly skilled player.
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I hate to break it to you but the Flames are a totally different team than the one we swept earlier in the season. Besides Minnesota and Nashville i would rather face any team besides the Flames in the playoffs
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Calgary getting hot was predictable....sadly.....as was Edmonton going cold.
cuz Oilers.
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Say whatever you need to make yourself feel better but since Ferland was put on the top line they have looked really good, plus they have a near elite 2nd line. Bottom 6 suck but that top 6 makes me nervous. And don't tell me you wouldn't trade our top 4 D for theirs. Hopefully Hamilton and Stone are out long term because that will weaken them a lot, but to say they have Gaudreau + garbage is pure homerism.
I hope your right but this sure doesn't look like the same team that we spanked this season and it would be so Oilers to sweep the regular season series and then get swept in their first playoff series in a decade.
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Honestly, not sure if I have anything positive to say. They made the Flames look like cup contenders.
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I'll say Gaudreau is worth the price of admission. Guy can skate, his hands are insane, great agility, great hockey IQ... he looks like Patrick Kane out there.
His development curve has been insane.
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so, that Johnny Hockey can play, huh?
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Yeah... If you're a hockey fan, watch the game and admire Gaudreau's skills and Tkachuk as well. Brodie also had one heck of a game.
If you're solely a Habs fan, skip it. Nothing to see.
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Say whatever you need to make yourself feel better but since Ferland was put on the top line they have looked really good, plus they have a near elite 2nd line. Bottom 6 suck but that top 6 makes me nervous. And don't tell me you wouldn't trade our top 4 D for theirs. Hopefully Hamilton and Stone are out long term because that will weaken them a lot, but to say they have Gaudreau + garbage is pure homerism...
It feels just a little bit suspicious that 16 goals ahead and has 2 assists on every one of them.. almost like McDavid gets phantom second assists just for being in the building on every goal someone else scores.
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I have a slight obsession with Excel, so earlier today I was looking at each teams top point producer and what percentage of their total goal that player is in on.
McDavid has been in on over 40 percent of his teams goals (the next closest is Brent Burns at 38.46% of SJ's goals). Meanwhile, Johnny is near the bottom with ~26% of the Flames goals.
The Flames have been scoring by committee this year, while Edmonton remains a one trick pony. Shut McDavid down and the Oilers are finishes. Shut Johnny down and we still have a bunch of other scoring threats.
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Feels nice to have other fans jealous of the players we have. Sometimes we get so upset after losing streaks and forget how many talented players the Flames have. Cherish these moments.
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It feels just a little bit suspicious that 16 goals ahead and has 2 assists on every one of them.. almost like McDavid gets phantom second assists just for being in the building on every goal someone else scores.
I don't doubt that that happens. Bear in mind also that the Flames top line is a new iteration, but I quite like what the break after the top three shows: That the Oilers are a top-heavy team with very little forward depth. If the make the playoffs, they are ripe to be victimized in a first round blowout.
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...The Flames have been scoring by committee this year, while Edmonton remains a one trick pony. Shut McDavid down and the Oilers are finishes. Shut Johnny down and we still have a bunch of other scoring threats.
The way the Flames are built has opposing coaches in a difficult position: which line is the "top line" that requires attention from the top checkers and defensemen? Is it the Monahan line or the Backlund line?
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The way the Flames are built has opposing coaches in a difficult position: which line is the "top line" that requires attention from the top checkers and defensemen? Is it the Monahan line or the Backlund line?
For the vast majority of the season I would have said it was the Backlund line. But recently Monahan has retaken the lead in goals scored while Gaudreau has taken the lead in assists and points.
It might be a fluke, but adding Ferland to Monaghan's wing has be great and brought some stability to that line.
As it stands now, I'd say Monahan's line is #1 and Backlund's is #2, although a case could be made for a 1A & 1B situation.
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