[PGT] Flames Suck In TO

[Meers]

... and in the quiet somebody across the arena from Oedipa distinctly said, “Ick.”
- Thomas Pynchon

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

I guess we're gonna have to call up Jankowski because HF is telling my Bennett, Tkachuk, and Chaisson are all getting suspended.

It wouldn't surprise me if this happened, but I have very little faith in the NHL dicipline system and reffing.

If any of them get supported, the Flames should all come out and wave the white flag and then walk off of the ice and forfeit the game.

[Racki]

One of the most difficult things for any sports organization to do is admit that they made a mistake. If this level of play becomes the norm for the last 30 games of the season I hope that management has the guts to accept that they hired the wrong guy and move on quickly. I don't want to waste 2 or 3 years of Gaudrea's deal before they acknowledge what might be obvious in two months.

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by taxbuster

HE may have had no sustainable system, but at least he could inspire his players to work hard and play what turned out to be pretty exciting hockey. Can't be too unhappy with that.

Pond hockey is better than watching the Flames right now.

this is a classic case time blurring memory.

The flames were freaking awful to watch when they were getting blown out early and often, were generating less shots than they have this season and were hemmed in their own zone for entire shifts.

Here's a fun little trip down memory lane from late October of last year.

Look familiar? A lot of what people see as hustle last year was Flames players chasing the puck around the ice as the other team completed passing plays up and down the ice.

Hartley's team ####ing sucked to watch, it was easily more frustrating than the hockey we're watching right now and some of the same people who think Gulutzan should be fired now thought Hartley should be fired then.

This team is having trouble scoring 5-5 because the team doesn't have the offensive talent to score and pass 5-5 and it was the exact same story last year and it will be the exact same story as long as the Flames are Dennis Wideman and Ladislav Smid and Lance Bouma the type of money that should be reserved for top end, productive players.

[sec304]

Terrible. Not watching tomorrow but knowing me I'll check in anyways

[Fischy13]

Flames are lacklustre like the coach, seriously, what coach doesn't address the team after games like Edmonton and that garbage tonight. You get your azz in there and rip them a new one. This isn't acceptable, you don't wait until tomorrow when your calm. They are accepting this because the coach is a "players" coach, (read soft). They need someone to blast them. I miss the days where one of the main goals was to not lose to the Oilers at all costs. Seriously though, how do you wait until the next day to address your team, horseshyt

[Karl]

Shuttling guys in and out won't help the Flames out much right now at this point, whole team's just way too not good enough at the moment to make any real difference during this awful streak.

This team will snap out of this, it's just a matter of when it will happen and will it happen in time to matter.

2nd goal really deflated the red team, but the Leafs are nowhere near a terrible team anymore like they used to be (they've got Matthews & a goalie).

Hope they can do the unlikely right now and smoke the Habs tomorrow.

[AC]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

Off topic, but can somebody tell me why this particular account has blown up on the hockey twitterverse? Many other people provide much higher quality gifs. So odd to me.

Can barely see #### in her gifs.

She got popular with the right people at the right time. Her GIFs are terrible quality though, low resolution, terrible framerate, and low colour palettes to minimize file size. But she gets them out fairly quick and covers a lot of games I guess.

But the top guys on Reddit get 1280x720 60fps GFYcat / Streamable links out in the same time frame.

But if you want a short GIF for Twitter, I guess she's the person to turn to.

[Magnum PEI]

Three blowouts in a row, I bet the Habs get at least six on Johnson tomorrow.

[Freeway]

Gotta say I'm a bit alarmed at how the team has back-slid since Christmas.

[Dion]

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Freeway

Gotta say I'm a bit alarmed at how the team has back-slid since Christmas.

No heart! No desire! No anger from losing!

[redforever]

Originally Posted by MisterJoji

I just don't get some of the decisions Gulutzan is married to:

Brodie looks like a top 10 defenseman when on the right side. Better force him to play his "correct" side, despite ample evidence that his play has cratered on that side.

Chaisson will not be demoted below the top 6. Now he's not terrible he's just not even close to a top 6 player. I'm sure most of us would be fine if he was an everyday player but on the 3rd or 4th line. The guys has zero finish. At least give Ferland another shot up there.

He also has very puzzling uses with his challenges and when pulling the goalie. Has he even had a successful challenge all year?

He may be a great X's and O's guy but then he should be an assistant. The head coach needs to be a guy that demands respect and can motivate his players. Not this pushover.

Don't think he is great at this either...

And he not only needs to motivate his players. He needs to develop a system that promotes the strengths of his players. Players usually have success when they are put in situations where they can achieve and achievement brings motivation as well as respect. And anyone gets very frustrated when they are put in situations where they can't achieve.

How come Gaudreau has had success with every coach except GG?

I don't think it is coincidence that our top players have severely regressed under GG. I don't see him as a coach for our top players or our developing players. In fact I only see a downside if GG stays on as the Flames head coach.

All the x's and o's in the world do not necessarily equate to success on the ice.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by CGY12

Just got home from the game and the biggest thing I noticed sitting 8 rows off the ice was the lack of intensity and fire by most of this team, I'm glad I wasn't the only one who noticed this.

Giordano is such a waste of space, Monahan is beyond horrible, Brouwer was a complete no show, I just can't believe how little they seemed to care. Win or lose the effort needs to be there and it all starts with the coach and the captain.

Yeah. Its why Brad should be kicking himself for shooting Hartley out the door when there wasn't a better option out there available. Bob pumped them up and got them to bring effort on more nights than not. Last season they were on a worse pace but it's cause they couldn't keep pucks out of their own net and had no confidence in their goaltenders. But there was more push than this. There wasn't giving up despite things not going their way that season either.

2 or 4 points ahead of their 15-16 pace or not, this team looks worse in a lot of ways because the heart and work ethic is missing every odd night.

It doesn't help that mony and Johnny got paid handsomely and no longer had to prove themselves to be worth big contracts. I think I'm disappointed in those two more than anyone on or around the team. I became a huge Gaudreau fan based on the fact that he overcame so much adversity and showed so much perseverance and will to win. He put teams on his back all the way to the NHL and I loved that it seemed he wanted to win more than anything. Since the big contract I'm not seeing the same person out there. He's frustrated sure, he wants to go out and dangle around teams but he doesn't seem to care about the outcome at the end of the night. Aside from slashes on him, he seems really ho hum at the end of the day and it goes against everything that made me a fan of him in the first place.

And Giordano saying that they weren't that bad tonight and just got some bad breaks.. that's hogwash, Mark. Show some intellectual honesty, you're the captain and if you sugar coat bad performances like this, and it was bad, then the players will start to have it ingrained in them that efforts like this are acceptable.

They aren't and it isn't.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by N-E-B

Anyone else hate the fact that they know they're going to watch again tomorrow?

I know I won't be watching another depressing effort like tonight. A man can only endure so much punishment before he says #### it! Even Pickleball has become more exciting than watching a Flames game.

[Karl]

I'm wondering if it's better to leave Ferland as a scratch tomorrow as well. He played well for a while earlier during the season but he's been more dreadful than most for a while now even before he got injured and missed 2 games.

Won't make any difference either way whether it's Freddie again or Ferland tomorrow because this team won't get much better until their best players play much better.

The answers have to be in the room.

[heep223]

Dennis Wideman is a bum.

[Beninho]

Welp I'm taking an emotional break from hockey. Will watch the games but really just for entertainment and take my expectations and shove them up my ass. Team is going through some really bad #### and it sucks, lots of bad and tonight's display was embarrassing and flat out weird. I really don't what the #### Gio was doing there. People will write this team off but our future is there. One more bad season sucks but if we continue to get the talent we have been getting we will be fine. And for the record I love all the dirtiness of Tkachuk and that he's starting a riot on HF.

[TheFlamesVan]

It doesn't matter who does it or how harmless it looks, a slewfoot is a gutless, dangerous play. There is never a situation where you fall flat on your back like that without having your leg kicked out. You're defenceless.

[Beninho]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

The Flames are the second coming of Nazi Germany on HF right now.

Originally Posted by djsFlames

Yeah. Its why Brad should be kicking himself for shooting Hartley out the door when there wasn't a better option out there available. Bob pumped them up and got them to bring effort on more nights than not. Last season they were on a worse pace but it's cause they couldn't keep pucks out of their own net and had no confidence in their goaltenders. But there was more push than this. There wasn't giving up despite things not going their way that season either.

2 or 4 points ahead of their 15-16 pace or not, this team looks worse in a lot of ways because the heart and work ethic is missing every odd night.

It doesn't help that mony and Johnny got paid handsomely and no longer had to prove themselves to be worth big contracts. I think I'm disappointed in those two more than anyone on or around the team. I became a huge Gaudreau fan based on the fact that he overcame so much adversity and showed so much perseverance and will to win. He put teams on his back all the way to the NHL and I loved that it seemed he wanted to win more than anything. Since the big contract I'm not seeing the same person out there. He's frustrated sure, he wants to go out and dangle around teams but he doesn't seem to care about the outcome at the end of the night. Aside from slashes on him, he seems really ho hum at the end of the day and it goes against everything that made me a fan of him in the first place.

And Giordano saying that they weren't that bad tonight and just got some bad breaks.. that's hogwash, Mark. Show some intellectual honesty, you're the captain and if you sugar coat bad performances like this, and it was bad, then the players will start to have it ingrained in them that efforts like this are acceptable.

They aren't and it isn't.

Imagine if we didn't have the luxury of Tkachuk, where this team would actually be this year.