07-01-2016, 10:48 AM
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#241
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In the Sin Bin
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Gaudreau-Monahan-Tkachuk
Frolik-Backlund-Chiasson
Ferland-Bennett-Brouwer
Bouma-Stajan-Hathaway
We've upgraded our size/strength/physicality quite a bit since the start of last year.
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07-01-2016, 10:48 AM
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#242
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by flamesfan1297
Maybe in year 4 it will be.But I tthink there's a good chance he ends up in Vegas next year anyways
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I wonder if his contract has a NMC?
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07-01-2016, 10:48 AM
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#243
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: STH since 2002
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Price per year is high but that seems to be the going rate. On day 1 you have to shine the money stack to get a reputable decent player.
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07-01-2016, 10:49 AM
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#244
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by AC
For the record I assumed they were pretty good indicators when comparing players but then I saw this one and so much for that.
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consider QoC, ice time, etc.
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07-01-2016, 10:49 AM
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#245
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Franchise Player
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He's an upgrade on Colborne - gotta look to one of the kids to fill the #3 RW spot.
I like it. Term was reasonable.
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07-01-2016, 10:50 AM
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#246
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Cranbrook
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I am happier with this signing than what Lucic got up north. Both bruising right wingers who average 20 goals a season. Lucic has averaged 30 assists to Bower's 20 but assists can also be a function of linemates and I am not sure who they have been playing with for the last few years.
Term wise Brouwer is done at 34, Lucic at 35 and 1.5M less for 10 less assists seems like a good deal to me.
Would have liked less term but compared to filling a gaping hole on the Flames and paying the FA tax it isn't that bad and gives another winning vetern experience to the locker room. Hell Feaster would have given him a NMC to boot so it could always be worse.
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Last edited by belsarius; 07-01-2016 at 10:53 AM.
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07-01-2016, 10:50 AM
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#247
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Crash and Bang Winger
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did not have alot of faceoffs last year but still 57%, year before in washington took over 400 and finished at 56%. Could use him on his strong side as we desperately need to be better at draws
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07-01-2016, 10:50 AM
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#248
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
Gaudreau-Monahan-Tkachuk
Frolik-Backlund-Chiasson
Ferland-Bennett-Brouwer
Bouma-Stajan-Hathaway
We've upgraded our size/strength/physicality quite a bit since the start of last year.
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Best part of your lineup projection is that 4th line.
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07-01-2016, 10:50 AM
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#249
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Lifetime Suspension
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I really hope that there are more trades or signings, we are still not a playoff team.
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07-01-2016, 10:51 AM
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#250
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AC
For the record I assumed they were pretty good indicators when comparing players but then I saw this one and so much for that.
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Complete Top Pairing Defenseman VS Depth Shutdown Defenseman.
It's right there in the chart. Not sure why you would bother comparing two players wiht such different roles.
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07-01-2016, 10:51 AM
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#251
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Indiana
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Originally Posted by belsarius
I am happier with this signing than what Lucic got up north. Both bruising wright wingers who average 20 goals a season. Lucic has averaged 30 assists to Bower's 20 but assists can also be a function of linemates and I am not sure who they have been playing with for the last few years.
Term wise Brouwer is done at 34, Lucic at 35 and 1.5M less for 10 less assists seems like a good deal to me.
Would have liked less term but compared to filling a gaping hole on the Flames and paying the FA tax it isn't that bad and gives another winning vetern experience to the locker room. Hell Feaster would have given him a NMC to boot so it could always be worse.
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Are we sure that he doesn't have a NMC or a NTC?
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07-01-2016, 10:51 AM
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#252
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Resident Videologist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashasx
consider QoC, ice time, etc.
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Originally Posted by GranteedEV
Complete Top Pairing Defenseman VS Depth Shutdown Defenseman.
It's right there in the chart. Not sure why you would bother comparing two players wiht such different roles.
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Yes that is the point.
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07-01-2016, 10:52 AM
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#253
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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I don't mind it. I guessed 4x4 but then when the day started and the crazy term came out I was worried. This is a decent contract that expires when he is only 34. You need good veterans and he is a right shot right wing that is 6'3 213. I am good with this.
Flames have addressed 2 of their biggest needs. 2 top 6 forwards (Brouwer and Tkachuk) and solidly the goaltending (Elliot and Johnson)
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07-01-2016, 10:52 AM
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#254
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
Gaudreau-Monahan-Tkachuk
Frolik-Backlund-Chiasson
Ferland-Bennett-Brouwer
Bouma-Stajan-Hathaway
We've upgraded our size/strength/physicality quite a bit since the start of last year.
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Bennett is still playing with not very talented players and Tkachuk is a LW not a RW.
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07-01-2016, 10:52 AM
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#255
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Medicine Hat
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I'm not thrilled with the AAV or the term (3 years @ $4 mil per year would have sat better for me), but it is probably worth it for the Flames right now.
Troy Brouwer represents one of the essential pieces this team needs. With that in mind, this contract seems about fair on the UFA market (i.e. no extra acquisition cost of trading for a similar player).
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07-01-2016, 10:52 AM
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#256
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by AC
Yes that is the point.
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Like I said, it's one tool of many.
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07-01-2016, 10:53 AM
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#257
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: Paradise Island, Bahamas
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My vote goes with the "Flames got the type of player they needed today" crowd. Also think it was a year too much and $500 000 over but that's what happens with UFAs. Especially ones with a cup ring and a good playoff reputation.
So this makes me smile and watching the Canucks & Oilers completely overpay and overterm my smile becomes a laugh
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07-01-2016, 10:53 AM
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#258
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: The Void between Darkness and Light
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Originally Posted by JJolg
did not have alot of faceoffs last year but still 57%, year before in washington took over 400 and finished at 56%. Could use him on his strong side as we desperately need to be better at draws
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This is so huge for Calgary, gives the coaching staff some options and a relief valve.
I am so stoked to see brouwer in a flames uniform.
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07-01-2016, 10:53 AM
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#259
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AC
Yes that is the point.
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What is the point? The Chart tells you the role. If the roles aren't comparable you don't look further down. If the roles are comparable (Which Brouwer 2016 vs Glencross 2015 are) then you look further down.
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07-01-2016, 10:53 AM
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#260
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Vinny01
I don't mind it. I guessed 4x4 but then when the day started and the crazy term came out I was worried. This is a decent contract that expires when he is only 34. You need good veterans and he is a right shot right wing that is 6'3 213. I am good with this.
Flames have addressed 2 of their biggest needs. 2 top 6 forwards (Brouwer and Tkachuk) and solidly the goaltending (Elliot and Johnson)
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We still don't know if Tkachuk is going to be in the lineup and you have him as one of top 6, starting next year.
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