May 27 - World Cup final roster announcements - Nakladal and Jokipakka named to teams

[Alberta_Beef]

Good. Very glad that piece of #### can't play.

[Locke]

Even if the NHL didnt uphold his suspension to make him ineligible would he even have been allowed in the country?

[cofias]

The IOC and the modern Olympics in general are both very gross and I would personally prefer something like this new World Cup concept for a best-on-best tourney, sideshow teams notwithstanding.

[sureLoss]

Russia Hockey @russiahockey_en
Breaking news: Nikita Nesterov will replace Vyacheslav Voynov at the World Cup of Hockey: http://fhr.ru/en/main/ofnews/card/?id_4=12251

Russians make a not so subtle hint about Voynov's marriage

Russian national team defenseman Vyacheslav Voynov will not take part in the World Cup of Hockey. This is down to not having enough time to sort out the issues at hand surronding his NHL disqualification. The Russian Ice Hockey Federation did everything possible in order to fix the situation, but the NHL has its own procedures and time-frames. The RIHF respects the World Cup of Hockey organisers' decision, and has been forced into replacing Vyacheslav.

Tampa Bay Lightning defenseman Nikita Nesterov will take his place.

The RIHF would like to point out that Vyacheslav Voynov remains one of the country's top defensemen, and is a candidate for other international tournaments. Not long ago, Vyacheslav and wife Marta Varlamov got married. The Russian Ice Hockey Federation wishes both happiness in their lives together!

[CroFlames]

I still don't understand the disqualification. Yes, he was banned from the NHL. He wasn't deported from the USA, he left on his own accord.

The World Cup is being hosted in Canada. Why can't he play?

[Locke]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

I still don't understand the disqualification. Yes, he was banned from the NHL. He wasn't deported from the USA, he left on his own accord.

The World Cup is being hosted in Canada. Why can't he play?

Because its being hosted by the NHL with whom he still has a standing suspension.

[Weitz]

I personally think its just the NHL flexing some muscles over Russia.

[polak]

Originally Posted by cofias

The IOC and the modern Olympics in general are both very gross and I would personally prefer something like this new World Cup concept for a best-on-best tourney, sideshow teams notwithstanding.

Only if they make it a proper tournament and get rid of the NHL overseeing it and actually have some sort of qualification tournament. No way you can call it proper world cup when a domestic league is running show and only inviting certain teams and shoehorning their stars into made up teams.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Weitz

I personally think its just the NHL flexing some muscles over Russia.

Or maybe they don't want a guy who beat the crap out of his now-wife to be involved with their tournament.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Or maybe they don't want a guy who beat the crap out of his now-wife to be involved with their tournament.

He did his time in prison.

I didn't see anyone protesting Mayweather's participation in boxing Manny after several conditions for abusing women. In fact, the public embraced him.

Why is Voynov different?

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

He did his time in prison.

I didn't see anyone protesting Mayweather's participation in boxing Manny after several conditions for abusing women. In fact, the public embraced him.

Why is Voynov different?

Lots of people are bothered that Mayweather is allowed to continue to fight. But boxing is insane. Fight sports are all insane. Mike Tyson is a convicted rapist and he fought for another 15 years. Manny Pacquiao might as well be Pat Robertson for all the crazy he spouts.

I don't know that 'the public embraced Floyd after he beat up his wife' is a great argument either.

Regardless, it's the NHL's tournament and they don't want him. He's not an NHL player, Nesterov is, and they don't have to answer any more Voynov questions.

Brian Burke often talks about it being a privilege to earn pro athlete wages. Nobody's preventing Voynov from loading trucks in Minsk. Nobody's even preventing him from earning a living play pro hockey. His actions cost him the opportunity to play in the NHL, and by extension the World Cup.

There's probably more than a little bit of '#### that guy' at play here too. Which is fine. He beat up his girlfriend/now wife. He's a 2x Stanley Cup winning defenseman and he beat up a woman. He pleaded no contest. #### that guy.

[CroFlames]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Lots of people are bothered that Mayweather is allowed to continue to fight. But boxing is insane. Fight sports are all insane. Mike Tyson is a convicted rapist and he fought for another 15 years. Manny Pacquiao might as well be Pat Robertson for all the crazy he spouts.

I don't know that 'the public embraced Floyd after he beat up his wife' is a great argument either.

Regardless, it's the NHL's tournament and they don't want him. He's not an NHL player, Nesterov is, and they don't have to answer any more Voynov questions.

Brian Burke often talks about it being a privilege to earn pro athlete wages. Nobody's preventing Voynov from loading trucks in Minsk. Nobody's even preventing him from earning a living play pro hockey. His actions cost him the opportunity to play in the NHL, and by extension the World Cup.

There's probably more than a little bit of '#### that guy' at play here too. Which is fine. He beat up his girlfriend/now wife. He's a 2x Stanley Cup winning defenseman and he beat up a woman. He pleaded no contest. #### that guy.

While all true, isn't there some legal mumbo jumbo wherein if someone has done their time in prison, you can't continue holding stuff against him? As in, you can't discriminate employment (i.e.: The World Cup) because of past criminal behavior?

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

While all true, isn't there some legal mumbo jumbo wherein if someone has done their time in prison, you can't continue holding stuff against him? As in, you can't discriminate employment (i.e.: The World Cup) because of past criminal behavior?

You can't be tried for the same crime twice.

You're 100% within your rights to not hire someone because of a criminal record. That's why that stupid check box is on job applications.

If Slava Voynov wanted to coach minor hockey, he'd have to submit to a background check, and based on the actions HE took, he probably wouldn't be allowed to mentor young boys.

It's not a right to play in the World Cup, it's a privilege. Voynov doesn't deserve to be there.

[Alberta_Beef]

Originally Posted by CroFlames

While all true, isn't there some legal mumbo jumbo wherein if someone has done their time in prison, you can't continue holding stuff against him? As in, you can't discriminate employment (i.e.: The World Cup) because of past criminal behavior?

If there were such legal mumbo jumbo prospective employers would not be allowed to ask if you have a criminal record. Employers most certainly have the right to "discriminate" against people with Criminal Records.

[sureLoss]

Stephen Whyno @SWhyno
U.S. adds Devils' Kyle Palmieri to World Cup roster to replace Ryan Callahan.

[theslymonkey]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Stephen Whyno @SWhyno
U.S. adds Devils' Kyle Palmieri to World Cup roster to replace Ryan Callahan.

How is Kessel passed over again for the Americans? Am I missing something?

[Weitz]

Originally Posted by theslymonkey

How is Kessel passed over again for the Americans? Am I missing something?

Well he had hand surgery this offseason and Palmieri scored more goals last season than Kessel.

[spuzzum]

Slava Voynov lost his job and paid his dues. At some point, he needs to be forgiven and be allowed to return to society. He should be allowed to play at the World Cup if games were held in Moscow.

Getting a travel visa to enter Canada is a different story. Anyone with a criminal record generally is denied entry - which is a good thing.

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by spuzzum

Slava Voynov lost his job and paid his dues. At some point, he needs to be forgiven and be allowed to return to society. He should be allowed to play at the World Cup if games were held in Moscow.

Getting a travel visa to enter Canada is a different story. Anyone with a criminal record generally is denied entry - which is a good thing.

What nonsense is this... nobody is preventing Slava Voynov from living in society. He plays pro hockey and he's very well compensated for it in his native land.

The NHL doesn't want this guy there. It's their tournament. So he doesn't go. Maybe Voynov can take it up with the UN.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by spuzzum

Slava Voynov lost his job and paid his dues. At some point, he needs to be forgiven and be allowed to return to society. He should be allowed to play at the World Cup if games were held in Moscow.

Getting a travel visa to enter Canada is a different story. Anyone with a criminal record generally is denied entry - which is a good thing.

Again, it doesnt matter where the tournament is held, this isnt the World Championships or the Olympics or the Spengler, it isnt being administered by the IIHF or the IOC or some dude in a basement in Switzerland.

This tournament belongs to the NHL. An organization from which Voynov is currently suspended.

They could hold this tournament on the moon and Voynov wouldnt be allowed to play until he does whatever it is he has to do to get his NHL suspension either lifted, commuted or served.