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Old 12-02-2015, 08:57 PM   #241
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Old 12-02-2015, 09:11 PM   #242
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I don't understand how Abi is still around. She should have been gone at every vote ever, especially the early ones. Trying to bring her to the end is a weak game, one I don't think the jury would respect.

I don't know why they voted fish out after they knew he was using his advantage. Once it was gone, he wasn't a threat. Flush it out and leave him and get Joe. Must be the lack of everything getting to their brains.
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Old 12-03-2015, 08:21 AM   #243
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I don't understand how Abi is still around. She should have been gone at every vote ever, especially the early ones. Trying to bring her to the end is a weak game, one I don't think the jury would respect.

I don't know why they voted fish out after they knew he was using his advantage. Once it was gone, he wasn't a threat. Flush it out and leave him and get Joe. Must be the lack of everything getting to their brains.
Abi is still around because she is exactly the sort of person you want sitting beside you when folks are trying to decide who to give a million bucks to, but no one in their right mind would give it to her.
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Old 12-03-2015, 08:24 AM   #244
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Joe going home takes Rhettzky and Bootsy with him from among our ranks
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Old 12-03-2015, 08:42 AM   #245
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To bad, really liked Joe, but like I said his social strategy just wasn't there and as a result he goes. Lasted really long though, good for him. His last play was weak, going after Abi the easiest target? Why not at least try and deflect something on to Jeremy or Spencer? I guess they were what he considered his closest allies? And why did Keith vote for Tasha? LoL. I love the guy but he is just clueless.

The only way the guys survive now (if Tasha sides against them) is if they can figure out who the target is, play Jeremy's idol and get the numbers back to 3-3. That is of course if they can keep Keith on the straight on the path.

I imagine what the girls say next is that they want Keith gone as he is a threat to win out, and that is Tasha's way of keeping Jeremy and Spencer close to her while still keeping the all girl alliance active. But if I am Jeremy or Spencer and it becomes clear or semi clear that the girls are voltroning up then I throw Tasha right under the bus to the other girls and tell her she is playing both sides, hoping to god they vote her out (as they would still have the 3-2 numbers, assuming Keith goes home first) then he can play his idol to make final four.

I did love the part where Jeff broke it down at the challenge and gave the remaining tribe members a nod of respect about how hard they have played the game. Outside of Abi, everyone on and off the jury deserves a huge pat on the back for a big effort.
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Old 12-03-2015, 09:41 AM   #246
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Looks like the girls will run the game from here on out. I think that was a silly move by spencer and jeremy. Sure Joe is a beast but so are those 2.

If the girls play this smartly they can get to final 4. Whether they will or not however..
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Old 12-03-2015, 10:18 AM   #247
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Yeah, Jeremy and Spencer were kind of between a rock and hard place. Do you keep Joe, who's proven to be a winning machine (though, with a limit it appears) or do you open up the possibility of Tasha going full girl power and picking the guys off one by one.

Thing is, do you ever want to put your 100% trust in Abi? I don't think so. One wrong sentence with her and she'll flip on you so fast you'll wonder what happened. That being said, if there's a smidgen of smarts in Abi's head, she'll realize that girl power is her ticket to the end game.
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With Joe gone, I really want Wentworth to win.
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Old 12-03-2015, 11:22 AM   #249
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Looks like the girls will run the game from here on out. I think that was a silly move by spencer and jeremy. Sure Joe is a beast but so are those 2.

If the girls play this smartly they can get to final 4. Whether they will or not however..
Yeah it was a stupid move that gave the girls all the power if they're smart enough.

Wentworth is really in the drivers seat now.
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Old 12-03-2015, 10:19 PM   #250
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The girls won't win an immunity challenge and will turn on each other like the wind direction.

This game is far from over.
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Old 12-04-2015, 08:56 AM   #251
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Yea I kind of agree with that, all one of the guys has to do is tell Abi that Whentworth called her fat and its GG.
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Old 12-04-2015, 09:25 AM   #252
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So here's what we have left right

Abi, Wentworth, Tasha, Kimmi

Keith Jeremy and spenser

If Jeremy doesn't win immunity next week, he's going to be forced to play his idol because he's the biggest threat among guys. So there's the last possibility of a girl going home. But I'm going to predict Jeremy wins immunity and Spencer goes home.

The next week. Keith loses immunity, Jeremy decides not to give his idol away if he wins immunity. Keith goes home.

The next week, Abi sees her opportunity and Wentworth is blind sided leaving it to a 3-1 advantage for the girls with Kimmi, Tasha and Abi, Keith on the mens side. Abi has fianlly made a move that will look good in front of the jury

In the battle for the final three, somehow Keith doesn't win immunity, he's a big threat in front of the jury, so they gas him. We have the all girl alliance.

Kimmi has made one big move but otherwise been a follower

Tasha has really done nothing, but floated

Abi comes in, claims that she made a big move at the end to get rid of Wentworth, tells everyone to screw themselves and win Survivor.
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So here's what we have left right

Abi, Wentworth, Tasha, Kimmi

Keith Jeremy and spenser

If Jeremy doesn't win immunity next week, he's going to be forced to play his idol because he's the biggest threat among guys. So there's the last possibility of a girl going home. But I'm going to predict Jeremy wins immunity and Spencer goes home.

The next week. Keith loses immunity, Jeremy decides not to give his idol away if he wins immunity. Keith goes home.

The next week, Abi sees her opportunity and Wentworth is blind sided leaving it to a 3-1 advantage for the girls with Kimmi, Tasha and Abi, Keith on the mens side. Abi has fianlly made a move that will look good in front of the jury

In the battle for the final three, somehow Keith doesn't win immunity, he's a big threat in front of the jury, so they gas him. We have the all girl alliance.

Kimmi has made one big move but otherwise been a follower

Tasha has really done nothing, but floated

Abi comes in, claims that she made a big move at the end to get rid of Wentworth, tells everyone to screw themselves and win Survivor.
Keith goes home but then makes a miraculous comeback from Ponderosa??
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Old 12-04-2015, 10:20 AM   #254
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What a twist eh.

Jeremy is going to lose his immunity idol next week, if he doesn't win immunity he has no choice but to play it, he and Spencer are the biggest threats strategy wise and immunity challenge wise right now.

Wentworth still has an immunity idol that nobody knows about, she can probably sit on that til all the guys are gone.
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Old 12-04-2015, 01:19 PM   #255
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Was able to watch it.

I have to admit, I'm often amused by the 'younger' players being so surprised about Keith's tenacity in challenges. The guy has been an old school farmer for years. Of course he's going to have some levels of endurance they just can't understand.

I think that Joe going home was the right move for a lot of people.

Not sure how the rest of the season is going to shake out, but I do know this has been one of the more exciting seasons in quite some time.
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Old 12-04-2015, 07:48 PM   #256
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The guys are in big trouble if the all girl alliance doesn't crack.
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Old 12-05-2015, 02:00 PM   #257
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Keith is a firefighter if I recall correctly.

I find it funny when people who value talking more than anything else dismiss the game play of the physical players. i'm sorry, but sitting at the shelter all day and waiting to be fed shouldn't be valued more than actually winning a challenge.

What was Keith's big move? Standing up to Joe and defeating him when no one else could. And going an hour more than most of the players to win it.
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Agreed, but what I worry about is Keith's ability to plead his case at the final tribal council. The guy isn't exactly a wizard with words and would he be able to connect all of those dots and put it together into a coherent argument?

I love Keith, he is one of my favourite players of all time and reminds me a lot of a good friend of mine, I just don't think he can win this game.
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Old 12-07-2015, 11:28 AM   #259
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The guys are in big trouble if the all girl alliance doesn't crack.
In the 30 prior seasons of survivor how many times did a womens alliance both come to fruition and not crack? I believe the answer is 1.

Having said that I think there is a very decent chance that Keith goes next. The key here is Tasha. Tasha is playing two sides here... The women and Jeremy/Spencer.

If you're Spencer/Jeremy who do you target next? Abi won't win squat and is a complete goat, Kimmi has played the entire game with Jeremy and also won't win squat, If your worried about a women's alliance it's not going to be lone wolf Keith, and Tasha has a F3 deal with them.

Their best play is to get out Wentworth.

Now the women think they have Tasha so who will Tasha direct their vote towards? Certainly not one of their own and not Spencer/Jeremy (who she is also aligned with) either so challange threat Keith it is.

I see three scenario's...

A: Tasha joins with the men and Wentworth busts out another idol and the only votes that count are for Keith
B: Tasha joins with the women and Keith goes out on a straight vote
C: Tasha joins with the men and Wentworth goes out with an idol in her pocket.
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D: the women target Jeremy(becuase he is a big threat) and he idols out one of the women.
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