Gaudreau Progress / Development

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Rerun

Would love to know how you know this?

So... let me get this straight in my mind... according to you and your sources? ...there is no way that Glencross would accept a trade at the trade deadline, on this final year of his contract, even if its to a team that could possibly contend for the Cup?

No way he would be willing to spend 2 or 3 months living in a city other than Calgary, despite the fact that he may get the opportunity to compete for the Cup (of which he has no chance here).

Wow.

Well I'm only going on what he said during training camp about want market value and alluding to signing a sweetheart deal last time, and not wanting to leave money on the table. Also, that he didn't want to be traded in season.

That's all I'm going off. If Glencross even counts as a legit source. I dunno, mods can PM me for verification if they want.

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Well I'm only going on what he said during training camp about want market value and alluding to signing a sweetheart deal last time, and not wanting to leave money on the table.

This I can totally believe.

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Also, that he didn't want to be traded in season.

This I'm not so sure about. Everyone is for sale, if the price is right. Right team, right time of the year....?

[GreenLantern2814]

Originally Posted by Rerun

This I can totally believe.



This I'm not so sure about. Everyone is for sale, if the price is right. Right team, right time of the year....?

I agree with you on this - everyone has their price. I have personally always interpreted his comment to mean that he won't waive for just any playoff bubble team, but until proven otherwise, I take his comments at face value.

[chubeyr1]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

Your posts seem high on emotion and lacking in logic. Please try to correct the ratio.

I want to correct the ratio! Please help me! Do we re sign him or do we not?

I would prefer a team with him off it, he is becoming Rene Bourque 2.0.

As for calling out a fan saying his comments are emotional responses? Dude you gotta do better than that. If you are trying to make a personal attack against me, try a lot harder. What did I say that was so emotional? Or for that matter illogical? Glencross roasts his former team now, he signs in Edmonton he will bust his butt to play hard against us! That's not emotion, look up his stats against former teams.

You want to see me get emotional? Game seven Stanley Cup final! Other game against the blackhawks as backlund scores in OT, I gave a fist pump. I cheer for my team, and some emotion is involved. That's a good thing!

Emotional about Glencross? If he signs a 6 year extension for six million dollars with the flames I will be freaking emotional.

[chubeyr1]

Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814

It's better that prospects earn roster spots rather than being given them.

The fourth overall pick was informed by his GM that it would take a miracle for him to make the opening night roster. The third overall pick sat next to his GM on TSN moments after he was drafted and was informed he was the 2nd line centre.

As I've said, there's two people on this roster that are a chore to move - Wideman and Glencross. Wideman because I'm not sure who wants him (though 50% retained sways a lot of people) and Glencross because he publicly stated he won't waive.

Everyone else is signed cheap and short. So when a prospect is better than someone on the main roster, they'll get to play. Tie goes to the veteran.

Of course I can live with management bringing players back - I assume if they do, there's something worth keeping. If they want to keep Diaz as a 7th D, fine. There's no reason to think they'll keep Setoguchi - if he's doing well, they'll likely trade him, if he sucks, he gets waived. Thus far, option two is far more probable.

If they decide to bring Glencross back, whatever. I wouldn't. But maybe there aren't better options available based on where we are as a team.

David Jones for 2 more years! What about Matt Stajan for the next three years? You seem to be getting emotional and not using logic lol!

[chubeyr1]

First off I apologize to all members. Some of us fans got "emotional" here. We got way off topic here. Past several pages do not belong in this thread.

Back to Johnny hockey! Would love to see the kid on a line with Hudler and Monahan. Barring that send him to the minors and let him develop. Kids got skills and is a top six forward or bust. If we are not gonna play him in a top six role send him to the minors. Let him light up the AHL!

[Da_Chief]

I think there should be a separate Gaudreau forum...

[DeluxeMoustache]

Originally Posted by Rerun

This I can totally believe.



This I'm not so sure about. Everyone is for sale, if the price is right. Right team, right time of the year....?

If you believe you are below market and say told your wife and kids you took a hometown discount for family stability, you can't run to a higher bidder because your wage is prescribed by your contract.

Enough about Glencross. We will see Gaudreau at home when his match ups are controlled and he is at less of a challenge

[Rerun]

Really happy to see that this morning Hartley has Gaudreau practicing on a line with Backlund as his center and that he's practicing on second power play unit.

Go Johnny! Show all those doubters that this isn't a mistake.

Thank you Hartley.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Rerun

Really happy to see that this morning Hartley has Gaudreau practicing on a line with Backlund as his center and that he's practicing on second power play unit.

Go Johnny! Show all those doubters that this isn't a mistake.

Thank you Hartley.

"Doubters"? Who thinks this is a mistake?

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

"Doubters"? Who thinks this is a mistake?

Plenty of people on here think that its a mistake to put Gaudreau on a line with Backlund, because of the pressure he will be exposed to and he won't be as "protected" as he was playing on the third line. They were just fine with the way things were .... they felt Johnny wasn't ready yet.

[Textcritic]

Originally Posted by Rerun

Plenty of people on here think that its a mistake to put Gaudreau on a line with Backlund, because of the pressure he will be exposed to and he won't be as "protected" as he was playing on the third line. They were just fine with the way things were .... they felt Johnny wasn't ready yet.

Fair enough. Except that is not exactly how I have perceived things. More precisely, people are a little concerned and not convinced that Gaudreau is yet capable of handling the kind of pressure that Backlund's line endures, not that this pairing is a "mistake," rather more like it doesn't seem like it would work out so well because of the hard minutes it demands.

Your reactions to the whole situation with Gaudreau have been pretty extreme, and this is no different.

[flamesfever]

Regardless of what line he's on, he is often in good position too receive a breakout pass, and never seems to be considered. I wonder if the defence are in on the attempt to give him time to adjust to the NHL, by limiting his use.

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by Textcritic

Fair enough. Except that is not exactly how I have perceived things. More precisely, people are a little concerned and not convinced that Gaudreau is yet capable of handling the kind of pressure that Backlund's line endures, not that this pairing is a "mistake," rather more like it doesn't seem like it would work out so well because of the hard minutes it demands.

Your reactions to the whole situation with Gaudreau have been pretty extreme, and this is no different.

I admit it. I'm passionate about it. You have you calm, analytical Flames fans, you have your meh Flames fans, and then you have your passionate Flames fans. I fall into the latter category.... ok?

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by Rerun

I admit it. I'm passionate about it. You have you calm, analytical Flames fans, you have your meh Flames fans, and then you have your passionate Flames fans. I fall into the latter category.... ok?

Your narrow focus and obsession on Gaudreau and his ice time, playing partners, etc.. coupled with you irrational critique of the coaching staff and how they are using him make you seem like a passionate Gaudreau fan who's prime desire is to see nothing but Gaudreau on the ice at all times regardless of the short and long term implications to the Flames. It does not make you seem like a passionate Flames at all.

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

Your narrow focus and obsession on Gaudreau and his ice time, playing partners, etc.. coupled with you irrational critique of the coaching staff and how they are using him make you seem like a passionate Gaudreau fan who's prime desire is to see nothing but Gaudreau on the ice at all times regardless of the short and long term implications to the Flames. It does not make you seem like a passionate Flames at all.

Sorry.

[djsFlames]

Originally Posted by Cleveland Steam Whistle

Your narrow focus and obsession on Gaudreau and his ice time, playing partners, etc.. coupled with you irrational critique of the coaching staff and how they are using him make you seem like a passionate Gaudreau fan who's prime desire is to see nothing but Gaudreau on the ice at all times regardless of the short and long term implications to the Flames. It does not make you seem like a passionate Flames at all.

Who doesn't want to see him on the ice at all times? That's the better question.

Gaudreau is half the price of admission this season, so I think it's pretty understandable as to why people are concerned about how he is being used. This season is about our key pieces coming into their own as much as anything. People just want to see him in a position to be successful. I don't understand the bashing on those for being invested in it. If you don't like to hear people's concerns then don't go into the Gaudreau threads. Simple as that.

[Cleveland Steam Whistle]

Originally Posted by Rerun

Sorry.

Can't argue with a puppy that cute, even if he is being used against you tongue in cheek!

[FlameZilla]

Originally Posted by Rerun

Sorry.

I hope that puppy is named Johnny Hockey.

Everyone knew – everyone – that the start of the season was going to be tough for Gaudreau. Now is not the time to be making any judgements on the guy. Huge road trip, flu bug, adjusting to the pros, etc.

I'm looking forward to seeing if he and Backlund have some chemistry.

[manwiches]

Double post from the GD thread, but thought I'd also put it in the appropriate forum.

As mentioned by another user, you can't send down a guy with wicked mouth guard skills like Johnny Hockey