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Skinny arms, but I wouldn't have any problems with the Flames drafting him.  I bet Gretzky wouldn't have been able to do one.  
 
I doubt Bennett can improve his strength enough during the summer to make the NHL, so highly likely he goes back to junior.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			06-01-2014, 09:56 PM
			
			
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			Where is sonny Milano ranked? I really want Lemieux
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			06-01-2014, 09:59 PM
			
			
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				Pull-ups (Consecutive) 
1. Josh Ho-Sang (13) 
2. David Pastrnak (12) 
Jayce Hawryluk 
Brett Lenrout 
Alex Peters 
6. Anthony DeAngelo (11) 
Chase De Leo 
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Sonny Milano 
Julius Honka 
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Ekblad (9) 
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A day later and I still can't get over this. Did any other prospect do fewer than 5?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-01-2014, 10:00 PM
			
			
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			Words can't express how completely and utterly pathetic it is that Bennett can't do a pull up. Disgraceful. Florida, Buffalo and Edmonton would have to be OUT OF THEIR MINDS to draft him.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-01-2014, 10:04 PM
			
			
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			What's Bennett's wrist/snap shot like?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-01-2014, 10:05 PM
			
			
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				What's Bennett's wrist/snap shot like? 
			
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He couldn't even do one.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			06-01-2014, 10:06 PM
			
			
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				Words can't express how completely and utterly pathetic it is that Bennett can't do a pull up. Disgraceful. Florida, Buffalo and Edmonton would have to be OUT OF THEIR MINDS to draft him. 
			
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OK, i see what you're doing........
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-01-2014, 10:17 PM
			
			
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			Draisaitl isn't anywhere in the videos or final results. He was there was he not?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-01-2014, 10:19 PM
			
			
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				OK, i see what you're doing........ 
			
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Telling the truth is what he is doing.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			06-01-2014, 10:22 PM
			
			
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			I am 41 years old, short, overweight, and I can do a dozen chin-ups. Don't get it when a kid knows he is gonna be tested for this and cant do one chin up? That probably just cost him any chance of first overall. Who knows maybe it was his plan? Would you want to play for florida, buffalo, or edmonton? 
 
 
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				He couldn't even do one. 
			
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			06-01-2014, 10:27 PM
			
			
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			A chin up and a pull up are different though no? Chin up with your fingers facing towards you is a lot easier thank fingers away from you if that is the difference.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-01-2014, 10:30 PM
			
			
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				I am 41 years old, short, overweight, and I can do a dozen chin-ups. Don't get it when a kid knows he is gonna be tested for this and cant do one chin up? That probably just cost him any chance of first overall. Who knows maybe it was his plan? Would you want to play for florida, buffalo, or edmonton? 
			
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With your hands wide apart and palms facing away from you? The combines version of pull ups is different than the regular chin ups I'm sure you are thinking of.
 
Only 1 out of 120 young athletes at the top of their sport could do 13 pull ups.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-01-2014, 11:01 PM
			
			
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			Well aware of the style that they are doing and its what I was talking about. Hands palms towards you is easy, can even do them one handed but no chance in h e double hockey sticks with palms facing away from me with one hand. A pull up requires a strong back like he was attempting to do there. Chin up lets you use your arms and your chest a little bit.  
 
What he is trying to do there is the harder version but for a lightweight young kid it should be easy. Well at least to do one. It scares me that he cant. One he is obviously weak and that is a concern, two he knew he would be tested and didn't workout hard enough to achieve success.
  
Yet don't get me wrong, bench press and chin ups/pull ups, if that's all it took to be a hockey player I would of been a star lol. You cant teach a genetic gift. Concerns me though, took my overweight buddy to the gym years ago (46 years old ) and he couldn't do one. 3 months later he could do several. Were not talking bodybuilders here, average short 46 year old man who was overweight by about 40 pounds. Guy put the effort in and three month later could do pull ups. This kid could not put that effort in? Does not speak well for him. Yet if he is still there at 4 I hope the flames draft him. Lock him and Johnny in the weightroom for a few months lol!
 
 
 
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				With your hands wide apart and palms facing away from you? The combines version of pull ups is different than the regular chin ups I'm sure you are thinking of. 
  
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			06-02-2014, 01:21 AM
			
			
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				I am 41 years old, short, overweight, and I can do a dozen chin-ups. Don't get it when a kid knows he is gonna be tested for this and cant do one chin up? That probably just cost him any chance of first overall. Who knows maybe it was his plan? Would you want to play for florida, buffalo, or edmonton? 
			
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Vids or it didn't happen.
 
I rock climb 3-4 times a week and I don't think I can do 12 chin ups with proper form. Perhaps you're cheating or doing them wrong?
 
Chin ups costing him 1st overall? LOLOL. You have got to be kidding. What a ridiculous thing to say. The overreaction to this has reached absurd proportions.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-02-2014, 01:24 AM
			
			
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			What hockey moves would be affected by not being able to do a pull up?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			06-02-2014, 01:32 AM
			
			
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			Not being able to do one pull-up is pretty embarrassing.  But the inability to do bodyweight exercises doesn't mean much.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-02-2014, 01:38 AM
			
			
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			I feel like this could maybe hurt him and help him. It doesn't look too good that he can't do one pull up, shows that he currently doesn't have great upper body strength, and potentially (and this is a reach) he may have personality issues. He has known about the combine and probably has known about the tests. This is reason enough to believe he maybe should have trained for these tests, and if he did train maybe he should have trained harder.  
 
On the other hand, he has been successful in his junior hockey career so far and is regarded as one of the top choices for this draft.He demonstrates skill along with a good work effort on the ice, and he's tough to play against (from what I have heard/seen). He can improve his strength with a very intensive offseason workout schedule and he will have to do this if he expects to play in the NHL next year. If he puts on some muscle and more speed, he could become what we all expect him to be. In summary, he didn't play super well in juniors because he was physically more mature or physically dominant(as some may say for Ekblad), he played well because he is a skilled hockey player. His "lack" of strength also didn't prevent him from battling with bigger hockey players 
 
I wouldn't be too worried about it. If I was a GM I wouldn't change my opinions on Sam Bennett.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			06-02-2014, 01:38 AM
			
			
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				Well aware of the style that they are doing and its what I was talking about. Hands palms towards you is easy, can even do them one handed but no chance in h e double hockey sticks with palms facing away from me with one hand. A pull up requires a strong back like he was attempting to do there. Chin up lets you use your arms and your chest a little bit. 
			
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Cool can you do it with one finger though? I'd love to hear more about your weight room achievements.
 
 
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				What he is trying to do there is the harder version but for a lightweight young kid it should be easy. Well at least to do one. It scares me that he cant. 
			
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There's 120 athletes and Ho-Sang got the highest with only 13, pretty sure it's not that "easy". 
 
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Lots of odd conclusions here drawn from a single chin up test.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-02-2014, 02:03 AM
			
			
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			The only thing that not being able to do a pull-up tells me is the Bennett isn't NHL ready yet. He can certainly make some gains before he starts his NHL career though. It a bit worrisome because his game is on the gritty side, however if he is developed properly (unlike RNH) I don't think this is as big of a deal.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-02-2014, 06:47 AM
			
			
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			Meanwhile William Nylander, who was being ridiculed by some for his boyish appearance, managed a top-ten 11 consecutive pull-ups.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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