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Old 06-09-2014, 08:21 PM   #241
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What about the part where it says "All footage captured from actual gameplay" and the Xbox One and PS4 logos not even five seconds into the video?
I never believe that, they plaster the in-game and engine rendered labels around but more often than not the games look nowhere as good as the trailer. I'll believe it when I see the actual game in motion. Call me jaded but I just never believe hype trailers at all
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Old 06-09-2014, 08:39 PM   #242
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I never believe that, they plaster the in-game and engine rendered labels around but more often than not the games look nowhere as good as the trailer. I'll believe it when I see the actual game in motion. Call me jaded but I just never believe hype trailers at all

The trailers from NHL 14 looked exactly like NHL 14 did.

If there is one thing EA doesn't seem to do, it's lie about gameplay footage. If they say it is, it is.

You asked for it, but you're just jaded.
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you need to take your personal grudge against me and throw it in the trash because uhh... come on, I go out of my way to not take issue with you
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Old 06-09-2014, 09:16 PM   #244
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you need to take your personal grudge against me and throw it in the trash because uhh... come on, I go out of my way to not take issue with you

What?

I was just pointing out that "actual gameplay footage" is, in fact, actual gameplay footage.

You're not even remotely memorable enough for me to be grudging over whatever you're talking about. So you might have some "getting over it" to do.

I don't even recall talking to you before. Were you in a game of CP Mafia or something?
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Old 06-09-2014, 09:17 PM   #245
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Without getting into the squabble, I do agree about NHL 14. The NHL series actually usually has very accurate gameplay trailers. The difference is you have to zoom into an unplayable distance to see that detail. I'm very interested to see how it looks in traditional top down style. At that distance the intricate details aren't noticeable as much, so I wonder if the graphic bump will be as noticeable way up there.

Strombad: I tend to agree with most everything you say, but the trigger is a little sensitive at times. I get that you clearly like to get into it, but he's asking you to leave him alone.

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Old 06-09-2014, 09:47 PM   #246
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Without getting into the squabble, I do agree about NHL 14. The NHL series actually usually has very accurate gameplay trailers. The difference is you have to zoom into an unplayable distance to see that detail. I'm very interested to see how it looks in traditional top down style. At that distance the intricate details aren't noticeable as much, so I wonder if the graphic bump will be as noticeable way up there.

Strombad: I tend to agree with most everything you say, but the trigger is a little sensitive at times. I get that you clearly like to get into it, but he's asking you to leave him alone.

Does anybody play with those camera angles? They're ridiculous! Haha. The game does cut to those angles during gameplay though (in replays and the sort) so we can definitely expect that sort of detail to be apparent in every game.

The ice and the crowds are going to make the difference in the top down view, the little details won't be as apparent, but I think it'll definitely be visually apparent thorough out the experience.

As far as AcGold though, he said he was jaded, so I didn't think doubling up would offend him. Thanks for the advice, I can usually stand to chill now and then, but I didn't even remember who that guy was haha. I had to go back pages just to figure out what he was talking about. It's all good here! Haha.
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i agree that the trailers tell you very little. Showing cinematic views of the gameplay are pretty useless other than displaying graphics one might be able to expect when watching a replay at a zoomed in view.

It is the gameplay videos at the standard camera angles that show you the true nature of changes introduced in the game.

I agree with the sentiment stated in the e3 thread.... game trailers are such a waste of time in my opinion, it's like a movie trailer montage, but without showing scenes from the actual movie, just showing cinematic explosions (for an action film in the example).
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Does anybody play with those camera angles? They're ridiculous! Haha. The game does cut to those angles during gameplay though (in replays and the sort) so we can definitely expect that sort of detail to be apparent in every game.

The ice and the crowds are going to make the difference in the top down view, the little details won't be as apparent, but I think it'll definitely be visually apparent thorough out the experience.

As far as AcGold though, he said he was jaded, so I didn't think doubling up would offend him. Thanks for the advice, I can usually stand to chill now and then, but I didn't even remember who that guy was haha. I had to go back pages just to figure out what he was talking about. It's all good here! Haha.
Ya, it's all replays and cinematics between gameplay. I really enjoy them and feel they add a ton to the experience. The only time I've ever veered away from the standard top down was using a slightly zoomed in view and it was maddening (you couldn't see your wingers). If any more than 1% use those angles I'd be absolutely floored.
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Ya, it's all replays and cinematics between gameplay. I really enjoy them and feel they add a ton to the experience. The only time I've ever veered away from the standard top down was using a slightly zoomed in view and it was maddening (you couldn't see your wingers). If any more than 1% use those angles I'd be absolutely floored.

I've tried the side angle (aka the Winter Classic angle) which actually gives a pretty cool and realistic game look, but it was near impossible to play, especially in close.

Just slappers from the point all daaaaay.
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What about the part where it says "All footage captured from actual gameplay" and the Xbox One and PS4 logos not even five seconds into the video?
This is E3, you can't trust "gameplay" footage. Remember how good Watch Dogs looked last year compared to what was actually released?
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Old 06-10-2014, 11:39 AM   #251
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This is E3, you can't trust "gameplay" footage. Remember how good Watch Dogs looked last year compared to what was actually released?
I don't believe Watch Dogs clearly stated that the footage was from Xbox One and PS4.
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I like how nothing is ever good enough on cp.
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Old 06-10-2014, 12:24 PM   #253
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Curious: I noticed it is offering it on 360/One/PS3/PS4. Wonder if the graphics upgrade will only apply to the next generation models. I really do question if the old generation can actually handle the new graphic demands.

I guess worst case scenario is I get NHL14 with better announcers.
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'Actual Gameplay Footage' lost all cache within the last few years.

Notably, Aliens: Colonial Marines was very different from it's in-game trailers.

Ditto for Watch_Dogs.
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I never believe that, they plaster the in-game and engine rendered labels around but more often than not the games look nowhere as good as the trailer. I'll believe it when I see the actual game in motion. Call me jaded but I just never believe hype trailers at all
Ah right, I forgot who I was talking to here. Nevermind, and don't use up all the Alcan foil plz.

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This is E3, you can't trust "gameplay" footage. Remember how good Watch Dogs looked last year compared to what was actually released?
Worse than that - TWO years ago. E3 2012!


That said, it would be impossible for Ubisoft to claim that Watch_Dogs' E3 2012 demo was shot using next-gen console footage since the dev kits weren't available yet. That was clearly PC footage and then somehow they dumbed it down all platforms drastically from what was shown. Absolute debacle.

Like other posters have said, EA might be a lot of things, but if there's one thing they aren't, it's dishonest about genuine gameplay footage, especially when it comes to their sports titles.
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Does anyone know if HUT pucks will carry over from NHL 14 to 15 just like they did with NHL 13 to 14?
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I like how nothing is ever good enough on cp.
argh... big fan of the series, buy the game every year. this is a thread dedicated to the game, why does everyone have to like it for it to be a good discussion.
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Wow, those graphics look amazing. If the actual gameplay can somehow look as good as the trailer did then it'l definitely show the power of the next gen consoles. Just having Doc will be such an improvement. And with it being on Xbon and PS4, there should be no excuse to have the long load times....
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argh... big fan of the series, buy the game every year. this is a thread dedicated to the game, why does everyone have to like it for it to be a good discussion.

It doesn't all have to be roses, but really, someone saw that trailer and responded with either "meh" or "probably isn't real anyway"?

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