CP Mafia 2 - Town Square Showdown - Game Over

[CaptainCrunch]

Well that's pretty logical. If we lynch ineedanother, then it will be interesting to see who the night kills are, because right at the moment, it would seem to be entirely logical for the Mafia to kill HG as he is playing the game pretty hard, and at worse is flailing but dangerous, and at best could come onto something.

It could also let us know if there is a doctor in the crowd if we only get one night kill, or that both mobs tried to kill the same guy.

The first day has little to do with logic and pattern and everything to do with pretty random thoughts, posting style, who's protecting who etc. I doubt that we would even see much of a confession from ineedanother, etc please don't kill me, I'm one of you, he doesn't have posting history or anything like that to back him up. In otherwords this first vote is a shot in the dark to establish pattern.

In the words of an old ditty, paranoia will destroy ya.

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[devo22]

The reasoning makes a lot of sense in my book. Want to hear from ineedanother before voting though

[Hockeyguy15]

I suppose the only thing I wonder is if the sample size of 2 people plus Rathji is big enough to assume a potential mafia voting block?

I had 2 votes on me at the time as well, and I believe Completely and CBL had one each? I will go back and check to be sure. I just wonder if it had more to do with inexperience on ineedanother's part?

Also, safe to assume Rathji is town? Either that or this is the most elaborate mafia lynch idea ever.

[Hockeyguy15]

My bad..At the time the votes were 2 for me, 2 for activeStick and 1 for Completely. CBL's vote came after.

[GP_Matt]

Is it worthwhile to make group suggestions for the doctor and cop?
We could ask the cop to come out and have the doctor protect him every night, but that might be fraught with errors.
Is it better to have the cop conduct investigations silently until he has identified a few people and then have him come out under protection of the doctor?

Is it worthwhile to ask the doctor to protect someone in the thread?

[Aeneas]

I think the doctor might want to protect himself, if that is an option. At least the first night, just so as not to lose such an important person early.

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

I suppose the only thing I wonder is if the sample size of 2 people plus Rathji is big enough to assume a potential mafia voting block?

I had 2 votes on me at the time as well, and I believe Completely and CBL had one each? I will go back and check to be sure. I just wonder if it had more to do with inexperience on ineedanother's part?

Also, safe to assume Rathji is town? Either that or this is the most elaborate mafia lynch idea ever.

It's not, which is why I wasn't planning on coming forward with this, except bizaro86 caught onto what I was doing and asked about it.

As for me being a Townie, I obviously can't prove anything one way or another at this point, so I will just let my logic speak for itself. It is entirely possible that one or both of GGG and ineedanother are town as well, since this really is just a guess that might be a little better than a random or inactive lynch.

Until flips start happening we are all working blind. At that point we can gauge what people have done in regards to those players.

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by GP_Matt

Is it worthwhile to make group suggestions for the doctor and cop?
We could ask the cop to come out and have the doctor protect him every night, but that might be fraught with errors.
Is it better to have the cop conduct investigations silently until he has identified a few people and then have him come out under protection of the doctor?

Is it worthwhile to ask the doctor to protect someone in the thread?

The doctor and cop should not, in my opinion, identify themselves in this thread. You have to figure that one or both of them are going to be required to win this for the town.

[kermitology]

If the Doctor identified himself then he's lasting one night. That's futile.

[Hockeyguy15]

Originally Posted by GP_Matt

Is it worthwhile to make group suggestions for the doctor and cop?
We could ask the cop to come out and have the doctor protect him every night, but that might be fraught with errors.
Is it better to have the cop conduct investigations silently until he has identified a few people and then have him come out under protection of the doctor?

Is it worthwhile to ask the doctor to protect someone in the thread?

I think it might be too early to do a role reveal. We have a few targets the cop can investigate silently for now such as myself, strombone, GGG, ineedanother.

Might not be a bad idea for the doctor to protect Rathji for now, pending we can all agree to assume he is town for now? On the flip side if we all come to a consensus for who the doctor should protect, then that makes it easier for the mafia to avoid a night kill being unsuccessful.

[Hockeyguy15]

Ha strombone...Thanks twitter. I meant strombad.

[devo22]

Originally Posted by kermitology

If the Doctor identified himself then he's lasting one night. That's futile.

same for the cop.

[strombad]

Originally Posted by Hockeyguy15

Ha strombone...Thanks twitter. I meant strombad.

Nah, I'm good with strombone, haha.

[strombad]

Can someone who knows a bit more about the game confirm what happens in the "cop reveal" scenario?

Let's say the cop says who he is, the doctor doesn't, and the doctor just protects the cop every night. That's legit right? I mean, unless the doctor gets randomly night killed by the mafia, both of them should be fairly safe, yes?

[Timbo]

Big gamble on the cop role reveal. The Doctor could be picked off early just by chance.

To bad octothorpe is not playing because he would make a great named doc.
Also maybe Crazy Bacon Legs can come in here and make some sense of our logic?

I'm going to patiently wait for those called out to respond.

[GP_Matt]

I wasn't suggesting that the doctor identify himself.
The idea for the cop reveal is that the doctor has to protect him silently. It is risky though and probably better to wait until late game. Ideally the cop can come out and say that the following five people are townies and these two (or eight) are mafia.

[GP_Matt]

Here is a crazy theory that I have been working on. It is a risky one but possibly sound.
The goal is to end up with 9 players remaining. Eight mafia and one townie. The townie then reveals himself to be a townie. The two mafia teams have to kill each other off to avoid losing in a sort of prisoners dilemma and the townies win.
Maybe everyone who is a townie reveal themselves as such and we start killing off the townies on purpose to force the mafia to kill each other.

[DropIt]

Yeah, I dont see what benefit outing the cop would be. That would basically force the Doc's hand every night to protect the officer, which with two mafias would become a race of find and kill the doctor before the mafia gets discovered by the cop.

If we lose that game, then it is two players with powers eliminated and the mafia would have the townies behind the 8thats ball

[Timbo]

In addition, I am not a big fan of putting our best tools and chance of winning in harms way.

Of course there is still a slight chance of loosing these assets early through bad lynchings or unfortunate nightkills.

[Mazrim]

Vote Count:

With 30 alive, it takes 16 votes on any one player to hammer. It takes 10 votes to deadline lynch.

Hasn’t Voted (21): kermitology, hmmhmmcamo, bizaro86, flameswin, CofR, starseed, devo22, agulati, transplant99, Crazy Bacon Legs, Baxter Renegade, HalifaxDrunk, undercoverbrother, dsavillian, Timbo, GP_Matt, activeStick, Delgar, Aeneas, Completely, DropIt

Voting:
ineedanother (3): Rathji, Street Pharmacist, CaptainCrunch
activeStick (2): GGG, ineedanother
Hockeyguy15 (1): strombad
Completely (1): Lego Man
strombad (1): Hockeyguy15
Crazy Bacon Legs (1): Oling_Roachinen

Deadline is Sunday, May 4th at 10:00 PM Mountain Time.