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Old 06-29-2013, 10:18 PM   #241
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Old 06-29-2013, 10:20 PM   #242
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Yup they'll never be bad enough and especially the last 5 years they've seen the failure up north. Flames are re-tooling, not rebuilding.

And yes it may be stupid and we may be in for more 9th place finishes but we're not picking top 5.
This I doubt. Our team is young and has very limited NHL experience as a whole. We will be in the top 5 next year if Feaster doesn't make some mega deals for NHL ready guys now. I know they are "re-tooling" and not rebuilding...this is just a bunch of crap terminology, this is a complete rebuild and you will see once they trade Glencross, Gio and Cammy this summer or at the deadline.
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Old 06-29-2013, 10:22 PM   #243
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what? why?
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Old 06-29-2013, 10:29 PM   #244
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what? why?
Really don't want feaster to screw this up!
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This I doubt. Our team is young and has very limited NHL experience as a whole. We will be in the top 5 next year if Feaster doesn't make some mega deals for NHL ready guys now. I know they are "re-tooling" and not rebuilding...this is just a bunch of crap terminology, this is a complete rebuild and you will see once they trade Glencross, Gio and Cammy this summer or at the deadline.
The team is rebuilding. But the team isn't rebuilding through the draft. You saw in the moves that Feaster made, he wanted prospects who were ready to play in the NHL in a year or two. That's why Feaster liked Boston's offer over Pittsburgh for Iginla even though the Pens offer was a guaranteed first round pick.
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Old 06-29-2013, 10:32 PM   #246
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Really don't want feaster to screw this up!
Well, lets hope he and his team (we all know it isn't just Feaster making these decisions) of advisors don't make a trade with this pick unless it makes us better for the future and it is a 1C. this is really the only acceptable result from trading the #6 pick this year. And it has to happen without trading Brodie or Sven. I think anyone else is up for grabs.
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Old 06-29-2013, 10:33 PM   #247
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The team is rebuilding. But the team isn't rebuilding through the draft. You saw in the moves that Feaster made, he wanted prospects who were ready to play in the NHL in a year or two. That's why Feaster liked Boston's offer over Pittsburgh for Iginla even though the Pens offer was a guaranteed first round pick.
Boston's offer was a guaranteed first round pick too.
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Old 06-29-2013, 10:33 PM   #248
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Really don't want feaster to screw this up!
That may not be the best way to put it. Kinda scary.
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This is interesting. I could see moving the sixth pick for an already proven, elite centreman. Let's say 23 or younger.
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Old 06-29-2013, 10:38 PM   #250
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This.

But keep in mind, a lot of the ones who are mocking people for being panicky are the same ones who applauded the Richards and O'Rielly moves as bold.
Have you actually gone back and looked at that, or are you just assuming?
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This is interesting. I could see moving the sixth pick for an already proven, elite centreman. Let's say 23 or younger.
I agree with this, only way Feaster can say yes to this and not give up Sven or Brodie in the process.
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Uhm, don't do it?
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Old 06-29-2013, 10:59 PM   #253
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No matter what happens tomorrow, I am going to be 10x more entertained by watching the reactions here, then I am the actual draft. I'm kind of hoping Feaster does something...epic just to watch the meltdown here.
Thanks for reminding me to migrate CP to the fastest servers for tomorrow - I almost forgot. The pounding they take could be epic.
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I was just pondering the idea of #6 + #22 (or 28) for #8 + #16 to myself an hour ago. I'm just starting to get the feeling the Flames might be after Shinkaruk or Horvat and probably would think they can get either at 8, so would love to move up to 16 with one of the other picks.

Pure speculation but interesting to see rumors out of Buf that may lend some credence to my thought.

[Edit] To be clear, not sure I like the idea or not, think I'd rather Lindholm or Monahan, but not totally against it either.
It makes sense. The Flames are weak in d prospects. If they have their eye on a Mueller, Morin, or Hagg, and they don't think they'll drop to 22, the win would be getting that 16th. Maybe they wait to see who Carolina takes, and if it's their guy (out of Monahan/Lindholm), that's when they pull the trigger to swap with the Sabres.
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Pretty big overreaction to a hockey trade that doesn't affect you or your personal life.
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Old 06-29-2013, 11:01 PM   #256
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Holy #### you guys, he was joking.
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Here's where the trust comes from:

Jay Feaster is not the dumbest man in the universe. Dumb for dumb, he can't begin to compete with 99% of the people who make up trade rumours.

There is dumb. There is dumber, and there is even dumberer. Then there is weapons-grade dumb, then there is Eklund-grade dumb . . . then there's about 50 feet of crap (thank you, Moneyball) . . . and then there's the kind of dumb that blames Feaster for trades that only exist on Twitter.

I trust that most trade rumours are so far from reality, I would be a fool to worry about them. The only sane reaction is to laugh and move on.
Just to spread the paranoia around a little more.

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As Director of Video and Statistical Analysis, Chris Snow is responsible for the complete and comprehensive planning, implementation and oversight of the club’s video and statistical data mining programs including designing, developing and implementing a proprietary data base of hockey information for use by the club. In addition, he will integrate the data-based video system PUCKS into the team’s coaching, player preparation, scouting and planning processes.
Isn't PUCKS hockey's version of Moneyball?

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Old 06-29-2013, 11:06 PM   #258
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Moneyball is valid in Baseball since it's basically a 1 on 1 game. Hockey isn't. I hate when people reference moneyball like it will work in Hockey.
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Old 06-29-2013, 11:12 PM   #259
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Moneyball is valid in Baseball since it's basically a 1 on 1 game. Hockey isn't. I hate when people reference moneyball like it will work in Hockey.
Well this is one of the guys giving Feaster advice.
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PUCKS sounds pretty neat. Gives the players tools to review tape and tendencies of their opponents on their iPhones while heading to the game. I'd like to see it in action.
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