03-28-2013, 08:24 AM
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#241
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First Line Centre
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Someone should photoshop Jay Feasters face over Lee Majors face on the Fall Guy poster.
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03-28-2013, 08:30 AM
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#242
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by nemanja2306
I honestly can't see how people can defend him. First the RoR fiasco and now this. 
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You have to realize that some fans are just homers. they can't look at a situation logically and feel compelled to make up excuses for ownership, GM's, Coach's, players and heck anyone associated with the Flames.
There is no logical explanation for what Feaster has done since he became GM. Just excuses.
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03-28-2013, 08:41 AM
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#243
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Stay Golden
dispise Feaster absolutly dispise Feaster and Weisbrod. NCAA bu###### .
And this crap we have all been mislead about how Weisbrod is this and that. Screw that Neely and Chiarelli built that incredible team.
Weisbrod was in charge oh suprise suprise NCAA scouting and development.
Intellectual Honesty my brown banana.
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This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. Feaster hired a guy exactly like himself - someone who isn't willing to step out of their comfort zone.
Weisbrod looks exactly like the hire terrible teams like to make - a guy down the chain of a well run organization who gets credit for everything good that organization did. Sometimes you find a hidden gem, but usually he's just an average guy who happens to work under very talented managers.
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03-28-2013, 09:11 AM
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#244
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis
I don't think Feaster deserves all the blame for the mediocre return. The NMC really made things difficult to create a real market for Iginla. That said, if trading Iginla was the ultimate result he really should have done so at least two years ago to maximize the value. Ray Shero played this thing perfectly and if Feaster can be half the GM Shero is the Flames might have a chance going forward.
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That's the thing though - Shero played it well and Feaster didn't.
If the list was always really just one, Feaster screwed it up. He had more from Shero in the first couple days. One of the D prospects and a first should have been a slam dunk. We probably would have all been pissed at that, but as it turns out...
My problem with Feaster is that I don't like his talent assessment. And for that reason I am frightened that he is in charge of a rebuild
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03-28-2013, 09:13 AM
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#245
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Uncle Chester
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Howard Bloom is on NHL radio right now saying Feaster was completely fleeced in this deal.
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03-28-2013, 09:17 AM
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#246
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Toronto
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my 2 cents
No matter what, I don't think we would have been happy with any return we got for Iginla. Iginla was in the driver's seat the whole time and Flames management didn't have leverage once the list of teams were released.
Forget 2 years ago, no one can possibly know if Iggy (but Iggy himself) would have waived to go to another team. Remember he stuck to "I want to win the cup in Calgary" all the way until this year. Also, deal was probably the best that we could have got. The later we waited, Pitts and Boston had other options out there.
If anything, lesson learned is that NMC/NTC handcuffs GMS. Better to offer modify contracts where a player can make a list to go or not to go, and that's it
LChoy
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03-28-2013, 09:18 AM
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#247
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Originally Posted by SportsJunky
Howard Bloom is on NHL radio right now saying Feaster was completely fleeced in this deal.
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This is going to be a theme in the coming days. This organization is in free fall.
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03-28-2013, 09:22 AM
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#248
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#1 Goaltender
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When Pens fans reactions range from "ecstatic" to straight up lauging at is, then there is no defending the trade.
Something has to be done and Feaster needs to not be GM anymore. I don't want to see a nice guy out of a job, but I also don't want to see this franchise become the Islanders
Feaster gets absolutely zero respect around the league it seems
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03-28-2013, 09:25 AM
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#249
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SportsJunky
Howard Bloom is on NHL radio right now saying Feaster was completely fleeced in this deal.
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Anyone with two functioning eyes and a rudimentary understanding of the game of hockey (and not a Flames homer) likely realizes this.
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03-28-2013, 09:25 AM
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#250
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Self-Ban
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The disappointment in Calgary over the trade of Nilsson resulted in some criticism of Nieuwendyk's selection, famously leading to a local newspaper to question the moves with the headline "Joe Who?"
Just sayin'
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03-28-2013, 09:26 AM
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#251
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Lifetime Suspension
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When this whole thing started, given the situation, I would have been happy with Iginla bringing back a first rounder. After Brendan Morrow expectations were raised, perhaps too much.
I'm just happy this team can move forward. The entire week should be exciting.
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03-28-2013, 09:27 AM
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#252
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Lifetime Suspension
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It is too late to fire him, now that he made the biggest trade in years for this franchise, the ownership is going to want to see this re-build through. He should have been fired for the ROR fiasco but I assume King and Edwards had some blame for that as well thus didnt pull the trigger.
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03-28-2013, 09:27 AM
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#253
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Oshawa
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Originally Posted by neo45
When Pens fans reactions range from "ecstatic" to straight up lauging at is, then there is no defending the trade.
Something has to be done and Feaster needs to not be GM anymore. I don't want to see a nice guy out of a job, but I also don't want to see this franchise become the Islanders
Feaster gets absolutely zero respect around the league it seems
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At least the Islanders have young talent and are pushing for a playoff spot
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03-28-2013, 09:27 AM
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#254
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
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Honestly, what were people expecting better than this? Iggy is a UFA in 3 months. Why would you give up your future when you're already in good position to win now, and don't know if you're going to keep the player beyond that? You bring Iggy in to put you over the top. Oh, and if he wants to go to you also since he controls his destination.
People that are upset about the return really didn't have an accurate grasp of what a realistic return would be for Iggy in this situation. If this was done a couple years ago (when it should've been), different story.
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03-28-2013, 09:27 AM
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#255
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Franchise Player
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Feaster and Co should be gone. The only problem now is, how much they are allowed to sell off at this deadline? IF other GM's take advantage of the flames management team and fleece us on our remaining assets, we will be doing exactly what Edmonton did by picking first, 3 times in a row.
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03-28-2013, 09:28 AM
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#256
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by stignasty
The disappointment in Calgary over the trade of Nilsson resulted in some criticism of Nieuwendyk's selection, famously leading to a local newspaper to question the moves with the headline "Joe Who?"
Just sayin'
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and subsequently the term Jarome Who? came to the fore-front years later.
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03-28-2013, 09:31 AM
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#257
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by stignasty
The disappointment in Calgary over the trade of Nilsson resulted in some criticism of Nieuwendyk's selection, famously leading to a local newspaper to question the moves with the headline "Joe Who?"
Just sayin'
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Different times. In this day and age fans know way more about prospects and other teams players from the internet. Probably could make a case for some of the fanatic CP'er that they are like minni scouts with the ability to watch all games and retrieve info.
Back then the only thing i knew about prospects was what was written in the Calgary newspaper.
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03-28-2013, 09:33 AM
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#258
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Brisbane, Australia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stignasty
The disappointment in Calgary over the trade of Nilsson resulted in some criticism of Nieuwendyk's selection, famously leading to a local newspaper to question the moves with the headline "Joe Who?"
Just sayin'
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That's back when hockey reporters/many GM's didn't follow the NCAA very close, if at all. Nieuwendyk was putting up 2 ppg in college - at that pace he would be much more sought after then even Dan Dekeyser is currently. Comparing either of the prospects we got to Joe is laughable, at best.
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03-28-2013, 09:33 AM
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#259
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
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Reading some of the Eastern media they agree the trade was under valued but feel there was no other option.
Pittsburgh and Boston knew they were the only players in the negotiations, and both have smart enough GM's to see that Iginla is not the player he was three years ago.
Trades are made on value to the team now, not the past name recognition. Fact of the matter is Iginla is a key contributor on one of the worst teams in the league, is fourth on that team in scoring, and if you look at advanced metrics has terrible underlying numbers.
Flames still should have received more but with only two teams involved the Flames just didn't have the bargaining power to get full value. Especially once it was made pretty official Iginla was being shopped. You can't shop him and then just say screw it we will keep him, not with Iginla.
The issue with the return is not Feaster's fault, it's that Iginla should have been traded two trade deadline's ago.
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03-28-2013, 09:34 AM
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#260
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Lifetime Suspension
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Ben and Ken Who? Come on people dont jinx it!
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