Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community

Go Back   Calgarypuck Forums - The Unofficial Calgary Flames Fan Community > Main Forums > Fire on Ice: The Calgary Flames Forum
Register Forum Rules FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 03-28-2013, 08:24 AM   #241
David Struch
First Line Centre
 
David Struch's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Exp:
Default

Someone should photoshop Jay Feasters face over Lee Majors face on the Fall Guy poster.
David Struch is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2013, 08:30 AM   #242
St. Pats
Powerplay Quarterback
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by nemanja2306 View Post
I honestly can't see how people can defend him. First the RoR fiasco and now this.
You have to realize that some fans are just homers. they can't look at a situation logically and feel compelled to make up excuses for ownership, GM's, Coach's, players and heck anyone associated with the Flames.

There is no logical explanation for what Feaster has done since he became GM. Just excuses.
St. Pats is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2013, 08:41 AM   #243
JayP
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stay Golden View Post
dispise Feaster absolutly dispise Feaster and Weisbrod. NCAA bu###### .
And this crap we have all been mislead about how Weisbrod is this and that. Screw that Neely and Chiarelli built that incredible team.

Weisbrod was in charge oh suprise suprise NCAA scouting and development.

Intellectual Honesty my brown banana.
This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. Feaster hired a guy exactly like himself - someone who isn't willing to step out of their comfort zone.

Weisbrod looks exactly like the hire terrible teams like to make - a guy down the chain of a well run organization who gets credit for everything good that organization did. Sometimes you find a hidden gem, but usually he's just an average guy who happens to work under very talented managers.
JayP is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2013, 09:11 AM   #244
Enoch Root
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: May 2012
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis View Post
I don't think Feaster deserves all the blame for the mediocre return. The NMC really made things difficult to create a real market for Iginla. That said, if trading Iginla was the ultimate result he really should have done so at least two years ago to maximize the value. Ray Shero played this thing perfectly and if Feaster can be half the GM Shero is the Flames might have a chance going forward.
That's the thing though - Shero played it well and Feaster didn't.

If the list was always really just one, Feaster screwed it up. He had more from Shero in the first couple days. One of the D prospects and a first should have been a slam dunk. We probably would have all been pissed at that, but as it turns out...

My problem with Feaster is that I don't like his talent assessment. And for that reason I am frightened that he is in charge of a rebuild
Enoch Root is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2013, 09:13 AM   #245
SportsJunky
Uncle Chester
 
SportsJunky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Exp:
Default

Howard Bloom is on NHL radio right now saying Feaster was completely fleeced in this deal.
SportsJunky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2013, 09:17 AM   #246
LChoy
First Line Centre
 
LChoy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Toronto
Exp:
Default

my 2 cents

No matter what, I don't think we would have been happy with any return we got for Iginla. Iginla was in the driver's seat the whole time and Flames management didn't have leverage once the list of teams were released.
Forget 2 years ago, no one can possibly know if Iggy (but Iggy himself) would have waived to go to another team. Remember he stuck to "I want to win the cup in Calgary" all the way until this year. Also, deal was probably the best that we could have got. The later we waited, Pitts and Boston had other options out there.

If anything, lesson learned is that NMC/NTC handcuffs GMS. Better to offer modify contracts where a player can make a list to go or not to go, and that's it

LChoy
__________________
LChoy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2013, 09:18 AM   #247
St. Pats
Powerplay Quarterback
 
Join Date: Mar 2010
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SportsJunky View Post
Howard Bloom is on NHL radio right now saying Feaster was completely fleeced in this deal.
This is going to be a theme in the coming days. This organization is in free fall.
St. Pats is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2013, 09:22 AM   #248
neo45
#1 Goaltender
 
neo45's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Exp:
Default

When Pens fans reactions range from "ecstatic" to straight up lauging at is, then there is no defending the trade.

Something has to be done and Feaster needs to not be GM anymore. I don't want to see a nice guy out of a job, but I also don't want to see this franchise become the Islanders

Feaster gets absolutely zero respect around the league it seems
neo45 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2013, 09:25 AM   #249
kipperfan
Franchise Player
 
kipperfan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SportsJunky View Post
Howard Bloom is on NHL radio right now saying Feaster was completely fleeced in this deal.
Anyone with two functioning eyes and a rudimentary understanding of the game of hockey (and not a Flames homer) likely realizes this.
__________________
"Man, so long as he remains free, has no more constant and agonizing anxiety than to find, as quickly as possible, someone to worship."

Fyodor Dostoevsky - The Brothers Karamazov
kipperfan is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to kipperfan For This Useful Post:
Old 03-28-2013, 09:25 AM   #250
stignasty
Self-Ban
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Exp:
Default

The disappointment in Calgary over the trade of Nilsson resulted in some criticism of Nieuwendyk's selection, famously leading to a local newspaper to question the moves with the headline "Joe Who?"

Just sayin'
stignasty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2013, 09:26 AM   #251
MrMastodonFarm
Lifetime Suspension
 
MrMastodonFarm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Exp:
Default

When this whole thing started, given the situation, I would have been happy with Iginla bringing back a first rounder. After Brendan Morrow expectations were raised, perhaps too much.

I'm just happy this team can move forward. The entire week should be exciting.
MrMastodonFarm is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2013, 09:27 AM   #252
North East Goon
Lifetime Suspension
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Exp:
Default

It is too late to fire him, now that he made the biggest trade in years for this franchise, the ownership is going to want to see this re-build through. He should have been fired for the ROR fiasco but I assume King and Edwards had some blame for that as well thus didnt pull the trigger.
North East Goon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2013, 09:27 AM   #253
OffsideSpecialist
First Line Centre
 
OffsideSpecialist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Oshawa
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by neo45 View Post
When Pens fans reactions range from "ecstatic" to straight up lauging at is, then there is no defending the trade.

Something has to be done and Feaster needs to not be GM anymore. I don't want to see a nice guy out of a job, but I also don't want to see this franchise become the Islanders

Feaster gets absolutely zero respect around the league it seems
At least the Islanders have young talent and are pushing for a playoff spot
__________________
Quote:
Somewhere Leon Trotsky is an Oilers fan, because who better demonstrates his philosophy of the permanent revolution?
OffsideSpecialist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2013, 09:27 AM   #254
Joborule
Franchise Player
 
Joborule's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Exp:
Default

Honestly, what were people expecting better than this? Iggy is a UFA in 3 months. Why would you give up your future when you're already in good position to win now, and don't know if you're going to keep the player beyond that? You bring Iggy in to put you over the top. Oh, and if he wants to go to you also since he controls his destination.

People that are upset about the return really didn't have an accurate grasp of what a realistic return would be for Iggy in this situation. If this was done a couple years ago (when it should've been), different story.
Joborule is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Joborule For This Useful Post:
Old 03-28-2013, 09:27 AM   #255
kyuss275
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Exp:
Default

Feaster and Co should be gone. The only problem now is, how much they are allowed to sell off at this deadline? IF other GM's take advantage of the flames management team and fleece us on our remaining assets, we will be doing exactly what Edmonton did by picking first, 3 times in a row.
kyuss275 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2013, 09:28 AM   #256
North East Goon
Lifetime Suspension
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by stignasty View Post
The disappointment in Calgary over the trade of Nilsson resulted in some criticism of Nieuwendyk's selection, famously leading to a local newspaper to question the moves with the headline "Joe Who?"

Just sayin'
and subsequently the term Jarome Who? came to the fore-front years later.
North East Goon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2013, 09:31 AM   #257
kyuss275
Franchise Player
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by stignasty View Post
The disappointment in Calgary over the trade of Nilsson resulted in some criticism of Nieuwendyk's selection, famously leading to a local newspaper to question the moves with the headline "Joe Who?"

Just sayin'
Different times. In this day and age fans know way more about prospects and other teams players from the internet. Probably could make a case for some of the fanatic CP'er that they are like minni scouts with the ability to watch all games and retrieve info.

Back then the only thing i knew about prospects was what was written in the Calgary newspaper.
kyuss275 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2013, 09:33 AM   #258
kipperfan
Franchise Player
 
kipperfan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Exp:
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by stignasty View Post
The disappointment in Calgary over the trade of Nilsson resulted in some criticism of Nieuwendyk's selection, famously leading to a local newspaper to question the moves with the headline "Joe Who?"

Just sayin'
That's back when hockey reporters/many GM's didn't follow the NCAA very close, if at all. Nieuwendyk was putting up 2 ppg in college - at that pace he would be much more sought after then even Dan Dekeyser is currently. Comparing either of the prospects we got to Joe is laughable, at best.
__________________
"Man, so long as he remains free, has no more constant and agonizing anxiety than to find, as quickly as possible, someone to worship."

Fyodor Dostoevsky - The Brothers Karamazov
kipperfan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-28-2013, 09:33 AM   #259
SuperMatt18
Franchise Player
 
SuperMatt18's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Calgary, AB
Exp:
Default

Reading some of the Eastern media they agree the trade was under valued but feel there was no other option.

Pittsburgh and Boston knew they were the only players in the negotiations, and both have smart enough GM's to see that Iginla is not the player he was three years ago.

Trades are made on value to the team now, not the past name recognition. Fact of the matter is Iginla is a key contributor on one of the worst teams in the league, is fourth on that team in scoring, and if you look at advanced metrics has terrible underlying numbers.

Flames still should have received more but with only two teams involved the Flames just didn't have the bargaining power to get full value. Especially once it was made pretty official Iginla was being shopped. You can't shop him and then just say screw it we will keep him, not with Iginla.

The issue with the return is not Feaster's fault, it's that Iginla should have been traded two trade deadline's ago.
SuperMatt18 is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following 3 Users Say Thank You to SuperMatt18 For This Useful Post:
Old 03-28-2013, 09:34 AM   #260
North East Goon
Lifetime Suspension
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Exp:
Default

Ben and Ken Who? Come on people dont jinx it!
North East Goon is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:13 AM.

Calgary Flames
2024-25




Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright Calgarypuck 2021 | See Our Privacy Policy