Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by Red Slinger

There are some good examples here. calgarygeologist comes to mind.

It seems to me that for so many decades, Liberals (and non-classical liberals) were systematically demonized by a very rich and powerful industry. It happened for so long in Alberta with very little or no pushback that many people just started to associate the L-word (no, not that one) with bad intentions for Albertans to the point where for a lot of people, it's not even a question if the Liberals are evil...they just are. It's even become a belief passed-down through generations, like a religion. It becomes easier to believe that most of the things that Liberals (and liberals) do is to hurt Albertans and it becomes harder to lift the veil and see the truth.

Liberals (and liberals) are sometimes right and sometimes wrong. Sometimes they work in Alberta's best interest and sometimes they work against Alberta's best interest. They do this with every province but Alberta is the only one that has a multi-billion dollar industry actively campaigning against them year after year and make so many people think and act like victims.

It's sad to see so many people who are otherwise relatively smart and reasonable fall for the propaganda drummed up by corporate greed and effectively work against their and their community's best interests.

Welcome to the party?

We’ll all be fine as long as we do everything we can to promote corporate interests above all else…and if we get rid of those damn Unions.

[Roughneck]

Something worse than not providing enough vaccines for people is providing too many lightbulbs to people, apparently.

[puffnstuff]

Well if you wanna keep people in the dark...

[Fuzz]

Government lawyer will be in court today to intervene on the side of Alberta separatists

https://albertapolitics.ca/2025/08/g...a-separatists/


Headline kinda sums it all up, eh? The UCP are separatists. Our own tax dollars working to tear our country apart. ####ing pathetic #### weasels. Is this what you voted for?

[puffnstuff]

Im guessing the seperatists have the ear of the Premier and asked for help. Why else would she do this?

[Monahammer]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

Im guessing the seperatists have the ear of the Premier and asked for help. Why else would she do this?

The separatists are in her office. They run her team. Rob Anderson. TJ Keil. These guys are separatists. They are giving as much ammunition from the very top to the separatist group, and simultaneously orchestrating as many actions as they can to further the separatist agenda.

[Fuzz]

Smith has no problem gas-lighting the entire province, because she knows it's full of mentally deficient voters who will believe anything she says. She learned this on the radio. "Oh, I can just make #### up and have callers cheer me on? I like this!" And then she got herself elected, because these same voters can't be bothered to put any rational thought into what they are doing. Combine that with her failure to understand how anything works and her strong Libertarian principles, and you have the perfect recipe for destruction.

[MrButtons]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

https://albertapolitics.ca/2025/08/g...a-separatists/


Headline kinda sums it all up, eh? The UCP are separatists. Our own tax dollars working to tear our country apart. ####ing pathetic #### weasels. Is this what you voted for?

This seems like a mighty fine contradiction:

the Government of Alberta does not support secession from Canada but supports a sovereign Alberta within a united Canada.”

Sovereign Defined -

Sovereign (adj.)
Possessed of supreme power

“a sovereign ruler”

Unlimited in extent: absolute, e.g., sovereign power

Having independent authority and the right to govern itself

Unity

Made one: combined

Relating to or produced by joint action

Being in agreement or harmony

God, they just suck.

[direwolf]

These clowns know that a referendum on separation will ultimately fail, right? It’s a losing battle. Seems like their main goal here is just to stir s*** up as much as possible and create a huge distraction from all the horrible things they’re doing to the province. Get the population riled up and fighting each other, so they don’t notice what’s really happening to them. It’s right out of the MAGA playbook.

[Reggie Dunlop]

I doubt it'll ever come to a vote.

[Monahammer]

The vote has and always will be an illusion. If it ever goes to vote, they will ensure it's not fair, and that the result winds up close. Then we enter the endgame, where the POS POTUS will claim that we, the citizens of Alberta, need protection from over reach and freedom.

[Reggie Dunlop]

There's also a faction within the movement that says to just separate 'coz as near as I can reckon every real Albertan votes UCP anyway.

[Duruss]

Originally Posted by Reggie Dunlop

I doubt it'll ever come to a vote.

If it does Alberta's economy will be in ruins regardless of outcome. Most people think they are an exception to negative consequences, this whole conversation is a fantastic example.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Originally Posted by Duruss

If it does Alberta's economy will be in ruins regardless of outcome. Most people think they are an exception to negative consequences, this whole conversation is a fantastic example.

My theory is that Alberta UCP voters do not care about corruption. However, destroy the economic viability of their base, and you'll have massive social chaos.

[btimbit]

Originally Posted by Duruss

If it does Alberta's economy will be in ruins regardless of outcome. Most people think they are an exception to negative consequences, this whole conversation is a fantastic example.

Yeah I don't get how these people think they'll be immune to what happened to Quebec, with bailed investment and with major companies leaving to Ontario for stability.

[woob]

I mean for the UCP, it's a win-win. They keep their party unified, because they're appeasing the separatists who want to have this vote. And if the referendum is allowed and fails, then all those angry separatists likely stick with the UCP in hopes they come up with other ways of making this happen. They keep their wacky base, and then they get all the people who get baited by the coporate tax bogeyman.

Hopefully Nenshi/NDP doesn't fck up and talk about any tax plans prior to the election, and sticks to the basic voter appeasement items.

[Fuzz]

The province's new 23-page report on insurance reforms spells out the cases: an at-fault driver can be sued if they're convicted of murder or a Criminal Code driving offence like hit and run or driving with a suspended license; convicted of provincial offences of impaired driving or failing to stop for a peace officer; or if a victims's out-of-pocket expenses exceed their insurance policy.

Distracted driving or ignoring a red light would no longer be grounds to sue in the new regime.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...603277?cmp=rss

Not sure about cost savings, but stuff like this doesn't seem like it will incentivize good driving behaviours. When money is the only thing people care about, it seems odd to abandon that tool.

Does that bold bit also apply to cyclists and pedestrians hit by drivers? Because that's usually a lot more serious than vehicle damage. And if so, is that even Charter compliant?

[woob]

Fuzz, ya beat me to it. Was just going to post this.

[Fuzz]

Caring for Alberta’s elderly and vulnerable populations is critical, noble work, but it can also take its toll on workers’ mental health. It is critical that those who care for our loved ones day-in and day-out are also cared for themselves.

Alberta’s government is tripling previous funding commitments to caring for the province’s continuing care workers by investing $7.5 million towards the mental well-being of front-line continuing care staff.

https://www.alberta.ca/release.cfm?x...1CEE639440EBAF

First off, this is a good thing, but it's also a bit baffling considering they are making HCW pay for their own vaccines. Is their physical health not important to you? Oh, right, your ####ing anti-vax morons.

I do hope the unions step up and demand safe work place protections with vaccines covered for them. It's ####ing ridiculous.

[puffnstuff]

No light bulbs for the public, more dark.

https://edmontonjournal.com/news/pol...cp-next-survey

Province refuses to release early results of its Alberta Next surveys

Postmedia sought responses from the public to questions in the Alberta Next survey on a provincial pension plan and denying provincial programs to non-citizens

In letters emailed Wednesday, the provincial government stated it is declining to release any of the records.

Executive council has decided to refuse access to all of the records you requested,” the letters all state, citing a part of#the#Access to Information Act which allows the withholding of records deemed to be advice to officials.

“Information, including the proposed plans, policies or projects of a public body, the disclosure of which could reasonably be expected to result in disclosure of a pending policy or budgetary decision,” the portion of the act describing the exemption states

The following section#of the act, which#came into force on June 11, states the above exemption does not apply to information that is a statistical survey.