Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[#-3]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

But Canada and Canadians don't deserve that, we deserve a party we can actually vote for. This is the result of the selfishness of those ideological driven clowns that have taken over rational Conservatism. They can't reflect deeply on the results because they believe we are the ones who are wrong. Toiling in mediocrity isn't going to do it, they need to be absolutely decimated at the polls, or sidelined by a new Progressive Conservative party.


Otherwise we are just gonna keep doing this until they get into power, like Smith, and then we get to see how stupid the implementation of their stupid their ideas are. ####ing separation and love making with Donald. Ya, top notch ideas, you ####ing dunce.

Don't we deserve it?

I only have less 200 contacts on facebook, because I don't really cultivate that type of network, and in 24 hours post election I have seen no fewer than 12 different people ~7-8% post some combination of lets separate, #### Carney, or we're all doomed when they turn off the gas...

This is exactly what Canadians deserve, on this board thread alone I have been accused of being delusional for providing evidence (from the Fraser Institute) and the conservatives have no history of managing our national debt effectively. A substantial share of of Canadians 20%+ are off the deep end with their expectations of what is possible and what should be done within politics, the economy... and Poilievre faithfully represents them.

Yes I have a facebook account I'm an elder millennial.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Yamer

I do get a kick out of the people that say that they volunteer, are caring, and try to be kind while simultaneously voting in governments that try to erase or deny the existence of vulnerable populations.

Like the guy who espoused the value of his religion in how much good it does and how kind it makes people after trashing people with liberal beliefs, complaining about DEI, and blaming residential schools on misbehaving indigenous children?

[ThePrince]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Like the guy who espoused the value of his religion in how much good it does and how kind it makes people after trashing people with liberal beliefs, complaining about DEI, and blaming residential schools on misbehaving indigenous children?

Hey now, White Man's Burden is really difficult. Do you know how hard it is to be the only group that's civilized in the world? The weight of the world is on their shoulders, how else will the rest of these savages learn to live like good Christian white people?

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Yamer

I do get a kick out of the people that say that they volunteer, are caring, and try to be kind while simultaneously voting in governments that try to erase or deny the existence of vulnerable populations.

Why? Volunteerism is not ideologically bound. I work in the not for profit sector and most of our most dedicated volunteers ( people who spend 50+ hours a week volunteering in the community) voted conservative this election.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by #-3

Don't we deserve it?

I only have less 200 contacts on facebook, because I don't really cultivate that type of network, and in 24 hours post election I have seen no fewer than 12 different people ~7-8% post some combination of lets separate, #### Carney, or we're all doomed when they turn off the gas...

This is exactly what Canadians deserve, on this board thread alone I have been accused of being delusional for providing evidence (from the Fraser Institute) and the conservatives have no history of managing our national debt effectively. A substantial share of of Canadians 20%+ are off the deep end with their expectations of what is possible and what should be done within politics, the economy... and Poilievre faithfully represents them.

Yes I have a facebook account I'm an elder millennial.

Well I didn't mean those Canadians, I meant the rational ones.

[flamesfever]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Like the guy who espoused the value of his religion in how much good it does and how kind it makes people after trashing people with liberal beliefs, complaining about DEI, and blaming residential schools on misbehaving indigenous children?

How about the guy who works overtime to belittle his fellow posters, in order to make him seem like the smartest person in the room.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

It is widely used and basic.

However, what has happened lately (last ~5 years) is that the 1% in USA have experienced exponential growth which raises the average of the per-capita growth without accurately describing the change in quality of life for the other 99%. A classic case of a skewed average.

And then the Canadian economy is contrasted with that disingenuously in the last 6 months. When our influx of post secondary students skews the average down in the opposite direction without reflecting the lices of working adults.

Canada does have a productivity problem. Former Liberal leader Michael Ignatieff is hardly a conservative shill.

This crisis is no secret. Canadians are used to a steady drip-drip of worrying statistics. Canada’s per-capita gdp has been shrinking by 0.4% a year since 2020—the worst rate of the 50 most developed economies. Productivity fell from 81% of the American level in 2000 to 68% in 2023. In the same period, Canadian investment per worker tumbled from 60% of America’s to 41%.

https://www.economist.com/by-invitat...hael-ignatieff

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

Why? Volunteerism is not ideologically bound. I work in the not for profit sector and most of our most dedicated volunteers ( people who spend 50+ hours a week volunteering in the community) voted conservative this election.

I think you missed the point entirely.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by Yamer

I do get a kick out of the people that say that they volunteer, are caring, and try to be kind while simultaneously voting in governments that try to erase or deny the existence of vulnerable populations.

Voting every few years and posting your political opinions online does very little to make the world a better place. What we do out in the community is far more impactful. A person volunteering to coach timbits soccer for a season moves the needle towards making the world a better place more than the totality of every comment posted in these politics threads.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by flamesfever

How about the guy who works overtime to belittle his fellow posters, in order to make him seem like the smartest person in the room.

Yes, how one acts on an online forum is much more important than how they behave towards people and vote in real life.

Do you see why you get belittled when you post absolute nonsense like this?

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Voting every few years and posting your political opinions online does very little to make the world a better place. What we do out in the community is far more impactful. A person volunteering to coach timbits soccer for a season moves the needle towards making the world a better place more than the totality of every comment posted in these politics threads.

And what's the inverse harm negating that good when, oh, let's say you vote for a political party that eliminates crucial care for transgender children?

Maybe you can gently pat them on the back during the pre-game and let them know everything will be ok if they would just get over their delusions.

Thanks, coach!

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by flamesfever

How about the guy who works overtime to belittle his fellow posters, in order to make him seem like the smartest person in the room.

Depends, is he getting paid at time and a half or double time?

[flamesfever]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Yes, how one acts on an online forum is much more important than how they behave towards people and vote in real life.

Do you see why you get belittled when you post absolute nonsense like this?

I'm starting to see where the shoe fits.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Voting every few years and posting your political opinions online does very little to make the world a better place. What we do out in the community is far more impactful. A person volunteering to coach timbits soccer for a season moves the needle towards making the world a better place more than the totality of every comment posted in these politics threads.

Kind of arrogant to assume that the posters on here who are posting their opinions aren't active in their communities, isn't it?

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Kind of arrogant to assume that the posters on here who are posting their opinions aren't active in their communities, isn't it?

Just as arrogant as assuming that people who vote conservative, and volunteer in their community do more harm than good.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

Just as arrogant as assuming that people who vote conservative, and volunteer in their community do more harm than good.

Was that directed at me? I don't think I said that anywhere.

However, I think there's a very easy argument to make that someone can do good through volunteering in their communities AND cause harm on a larger scale via their ideologies. I'm sure there were some very nice volunteer counsellors at Nazi Youth Camps.

[Yamer]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

Just as arrogant as assuming that people who vote conservative, and volunteer in their community do more harm than good.

It's not an equal sum game.

The absurdity is declaring how good you are when you're fine voting to enable some truly heinous s###.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by Yamer

It's not an equal sum game.

The absurdity is declaring how good you are when you're fine voting to enable some truly heinous s###.

On that we agree, declaring how good you are, based on your own metric of morality is absurd.

[CliffFletcher]

Originally Posted by rubecube

Kind of arrogant to assume that the posters on here who are posting their opinions aren't active in their communities, isn't it?

I never claimed they weren’t. Just pointing out that expressing your values on social media is nice and all, but doesn’t make the world a better place. And that people who do good stuff IRL aren’t neatly aligned with political partisanship.

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

I never claimed they weren’t. Just pointing out that expressing your values on social media is nice and all, but doesn’t make the world a better place. And that people who do good stuff IRL aren’t neatly aligned with political partisanship.

Fair enough. Came off kinda weird.

We're also online, so it's much easier to verify someone's ideological positions vs. how active they actually are in their communities.