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Old 05-21-2023, 06:16 PM   #2561
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I love Vladdy, but the ground outs are back, and the strikeouts are creeping up.
It took him awhile to get out of that last time.
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Old 05-21-2023, 10:14 PM   #2562
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Figured part of the problem was I hadn't been playing MLB the show lately so I decided to sim ahead to the Rays game tomorrow. Well hopefully we don't see that performance from the offense tomorrow. Lost 1-0 in 11 innings and only gave up 2 hits. Had 11 hits myself but probably like 0-10 with RISP.
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Old 05-21-2023, 11:28 PM   #2563
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Trying to get over a disappointing Flames season by getting into the Jays hasn't worked out so far...
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Old 05-22-2023, 04:37 AM   #2564
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I know there’s plenty of time left, and usually I have optimism. But when the whole entire division has a positive record and it’s not even the Yanks or Red Sox as either top 2 spot, I’ve got a hard time thinking we can climb this mountain.
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Old 05-22-2023, 06:28 AM   #2565
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It’s a little soon to give up, still right there with the Red Sox and Yankees. Things will equalize by July 4.
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Old 05-22-2023, 10:11 AM   #2566
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https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/blue...%20the%20game.

Every once in awhile you see a mistake that quite frankly is so basic that you question someone's entire competence for the job they are in at the professional level in sports. Say there wasn't a pitcher already warming up, someone could have gotten seriously injured coming in cold for this mistake. If this occurred at a time that the team was not losing 6 of their last 7 and sliding into last place it could be overlooked and dismissed away. Where we sit today I'm thinking John Schneider could be a Tropicana Field Rays 4 game sweep away from losing his job.
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Old 05-22-2023, 10:16 AM   #2567
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I wish they could have moved Moreno to a different position. I will admit I knew very little of Varsho before the rumours and now I see why. Dude could not have started worse, already replaced by Brandon ####ing Belt. He is in a division where every team has guys with crazy velocity and he cannot hit the fastball. Biggio-esque. It’s clearly a little different playing for a team trying to contend. Speaking of Arizona, they are 7 games over .500 and moreno is hitting .311, Gurriel hitting .304 with 7 bombs. F’n brutal, they got terrible value for these two. Fireable trade if this continues.

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Every once in awhile you see a mistake that quite frankly is so basic that you question someone's entire competence for the job they are in at the professional level in sports. Say there wasn't a pitcher already warming up, someone could have gotten seriously injured coming in cold for this mistake. If this occurred at a time that the team was not losing 6 of their last 7 and sliding into last place it could be overlooked and dismissed away. Where we sit today I'm thinking John Schneider could be a Tropicana Field Rays 4 game sweep away from losing his job.
I dunno what the reason for their woes comes down to but I imagine Schneider has a long forgiveness before they dump him. It’s probably only a year right? Regarding the manoah gaffe, it happens. It’s not an apologist stance, but I’m much more inclined to blame the players in this case, though more realistically it’s an organizational failure top to bottom. As well to some degree when you’re in the same division as the yanks and they bring in guys with higher certainty in performance I think this was bound to happen. Vlad, Springer and Kirk hitting like crap is inexcusable.

Given where we are today, what type of extensions do you offer Vlad and Bo? I’m just curious as a message board what value they’d agree to considering the market perception on them too?

Vlad, 8 years @$35M
Bo, 8 years @$35M

I think they’re fairly equal. Bo’s defence is junk but his bat is consistent. He also can’t be paid more than Vlad. Glad hasn’t been consistent season to season enough but has huge potential. Also signing him at a low point may not be a bad gamble.
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The team has had an issue with RISP for what feels like forever. The issue seems worse because the team is actually quite good at getting players on base. Even now, in the struggles they're having they're getting players there and just unable to finish. Bad teams don't get on base the way the Jays are getting on base. The big issue is that an extended stretch like this (say another week or two of bad play/luck) in this division means they could end up a 85-90 win team on the outside looking in.

The bullpen is the same massive sore spot that it has been for three seasons now. So many unreliable arms in there. Even the arms that were lights out last season are prone to unreliable innings at bad times this season. Relievers are, for the most part, voodoo but there is something funky going on with the Jays being unable to develop, sign, or trade for relievers who find their groove here and keep it. We seem to get a year at most and then they fall back to Earth.
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The team has had an issue with RISP for what feels like forever. The issue seems worse because the team is actually quite good at getting players on base. Even now, in the struggles they're having they're getting players there and just unable to finish. Bad teams don't get on base the way the Jays are getting on base. The big issue is that an extended stretch like this (say another week or two of bad play/luck) in this division means they could end up a 85-90 win team on the outside looking in.

The bullpen is the same massive sore spot that it has been for three seasons now. So many unreliable arms in there. Even the arms that were lights out last season are prone to unreliable innings at bad times this season. Relievers are, for the most part, voodoo but there is something funky going on with the Jays being unable to develop, sign, or trade for relievers who find their groove here and keep it. We seem to get a year at most and then they fall back to Earth.
Aside from a few teams isn’t relief a hit or miss with nearly every team?
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Relievers are voodoo, but the Jays seem to have only bad voodoo.
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Old 05-22-2023, 03:42 PM   #2572
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Jays are poor at RISP because they don't start runners. Yes it's better this year than last when they were absolutely static but still nt enough. Thus they hit into too many double plays. Like the other day against the Yankees when Springer and Bichette got on via errors. Varsho shuld not be swinging for the fences. Either double steal or bunt the ball into play, make a defense they just made two errors make a play. I don't usually advise sacrificing in the 1st inning but that was a situation to surprise people.

You all saw the Orioles sacrifice in the top of the 10th yesterday. Probably not advised for the road team to do it but sometimes you have to surprise. The Blue Jays are predictable with RISP so the opponents pitches and defends predictably.
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Old 05-22-2023, 04:44 PM   #2573
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Toronto is 18th in hit into double plays per game .

We all didn’t see Baltimore sacrifice in the 10th last night because Baltimore didn’t sacrifice in the 10th last night . Mullins got a single as the first batter and was then throw out stealing

Jays have issues but let’s not make up scenarios and ensure the stats we are attributing are relevant

We are ranked 24th in sacrifice bunts so it is true we do that at a below average rate

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Toronto is 18th in hit into double plays per game .

We all didn’t see Baltimore sacrifice in the 10th last night because Baltimore didn’t sacrifice in the 10th last night . Mullins got a single as the first batter and was then throw out stealing

Jays have issues but let’s not make up scenarios and ensure the stats we are attributing are relevant

We are ranked 24th in sacrifice bunts so it is true we do that at a below average rate
The 11th then.

Point still stands, the Blue Jays don't surprise people enough on offense.
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Old 05-22-2023, 04:53 PM   #2576
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The 11th then.

Point still stands, the Blue Jays don't surprise people enough on offense.
They didn’t bunt in the 11th either

Not sure what you are misremembering

Jays also have attempted to steal the 8th most times in the majors so they are starting the runner

We do leave the most runners on in scoring position in the majors

https://www.teamrankings.com/mlb/sta...ition-per-game
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They didn’t bunt in the 11th either

Not sure what you are misremembering

Jays also have attempted to steal the 8th most times in the majors so they are starting the runner

We do leave the most runners on in scoring position in the majors

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Old 05-22-2023, 05:04 PM   #2579
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All these unforced errors have to stop soon. That was a base hit, no clue what Merrifield was doing there.
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Old 05-22-2023, 05:04 PM   #2580
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What's the unwritten rule in baseball? Never make the 3rd out at 3rd base? Apparently Whit wants in on the action now, especially with our hottest hitter coming to bat as well.
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