07-19-2022, 08:09 PM
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#2541
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In the Sin Bin
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Barzal is also very consistent regular season to playoffs. No drop off in ppg. A trait Tkachuk has not displayed
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07-19-2022, 08:16 PM
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#2542
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Draft Pick
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Who says no to Tkachuk and Dube for Kyrou and Tarasenko?
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07-19-2022, 08:16 PM
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#2543
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#1 Goaltender
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I think the issue he runs into is trying to do too much on his own. I think Sutter would be great for him, along with playing with a guy like Mangiapane that has a non-stop motor
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07-19-2022, 08:18 PM
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#2544
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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I do think Barzal would do well here. My concern is his contract demands - what are they?
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07-19-2022, 08:18 PM
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#2545
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Crash and Bang Winger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hicksie7
Who says no to Tkachuk and Dube for Kyrou and Tarasenko?
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Calgary……Tarasenko is signed for one more year. St Louis isn’t taking him unless he signs. A signed Tkachuk for Tarasenko, Kyrou and a 1st
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07-19-2022, 08:19 PM
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#2546
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hicksie7
Who says no to Tkachuk and Dube for Kyrou and Tarasenko?
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Flames easily. Why the hell are we including Dube. Absolute fleece for the Blues.
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07-19-2022, 08:20 PM
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#2547
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hicksie7
Who says no to Tkachuk and Dube for Kyrou and Tarasenko?
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tarasenko is 30
There is no way we lose our best player, for a player that’s out of his prime. Dube, maybe?
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07-19-2022, 08:20 PM
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#2548
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Auckland, NZ
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I’m in for sure on Barzal if that’s a possibility.
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07-19-2022, 08:24 PM
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#2549
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by hicksie7
Who says no to Tkachuk and Dube for Kyrou and Tarasenko?
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Me for sure. Hopefully Treliving too
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07-19-2022, 08:28 PM
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#2550
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Any trade for Tkachuk MUST include 3 YOUNG assets: a young roster player, top prospect, and a first. I don’t care about his salary, or how many points came from playing with Johnny. He’s 24, and already a star player. If Tre can’t get that, he’s a failure.
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07-19-2022, 08:30 PM
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#2551
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Draft Pick
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Originally Posted by Vinny01
Flames easily. Why the hell are we including Dube. Absolute fleece for the Blues.
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I hope you’re right. My concern is people are underrating Kyrou and overrating Tkachuk. Do other teams see Tkachuk as a 90-100 point player away from Gaudreau? I know I don’t.
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07-19-2022, 08:37 PM
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#2552
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Saskatoon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
I think Barzal is a classic bad-team star. He will make some incredible plays, look great at times, and entertain the fans, but the consistency and the ability or desire to do the little things that help you win, are lacking.
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He made it to the conference finals twice. That’s more then any of our core can say.
Last edited by flamesgod; 07-19-2022 at 08:39 PM.
Reason: Delete
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07-19-2022, 08:39 PM
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#2553
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Toronto, ON
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SaskyFlamesFan
Calgary……Tarasenko is signed for one more year. St Louis isn’t taking him unless he signs. A signed Tkachuk for Tarasenko, Kyrou and a 1st
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this is the trade i'd live with if we can't get Thomas.
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07-19-2022, 08:40 PM
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#2554
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flamesgod
He made it to the conference finals twice. That’s more then any of our core can say.
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That doesn’t tell the full story on Barzal as a player.
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07-19-2022, 08:43 PM
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#2555
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Saskatoon
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandman
That doesn’t tell the full story on Barzal as a player.
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No, but people are willing to use the islanders missing the playoffs last year as a template. Obviously not all his fault. But the top players get most of the credit and the blame. Rightfully so. So yes, him making it to the conference finals twice, definitely carries validity.
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07-19-2022, 08:53 PM
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#2556
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sandman
Any trade for Tkachuk MUST include 3 YOUNG assets: a young roster player, top prospect, and a first. I don’t care about his salary, or how many points came from playing with Johnny. He’s 24, and already a star player. If Tre can’t get that, he’s a failure.
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If Tkachuk is going to be traded, Tre ( and his staff) will get the best possible return that the market permits.
Market value, with all things considered, will determine the return.
What your expectations are...mean nothing. The player’s market value by the opinion of other teams , as well as their cap space, means everything.
Ask Johnny.
Sometimes, the Star is not as bright , as we’d like.
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07-19-2022, 08:58 PM
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#2557
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Lifetime Suspension
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There is no guarantee you something for market value, it's almost impossible to make that declaration. Treliving could possibly get more than a perceived market value as well.
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07-19-2022, 09:00 PM
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#2558
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FormerPresJamesTaylor
There is no guarantee you something for market value, it's almost impossible to make that declaration. Treliving could possibly get more than a perceived market value as well.
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By definition, the market determines market value.
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07-19-2022, 09:01 PM
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#2559
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Lifetime Suspension
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There is no guarantee Treliving gets the best possible return in any trade. He will try, sure.
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07-19-2022, 09:02 PM
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#2560
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by timbit
If Tkachuk is going to be traded, Tre ( and his staff) will get the best possible return that the market permits.
Market value, with all things considered, will determine the return.
What your expectations are...mean nothing. The player’s market value by the opinion of other teams , as well as their cap space, means everything.
Ask Johnny.
Sometimes, the Star is not as bright , as we’d like.
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Flames fans: If Tkachuk isn’t signing he must be traded at all costs so you don’t lose him for nothing.
Also Flames fans: the return better be A plus.
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