2014/2015 Trade Speculation and Rumors

[Caged Great]

The Flames have 26.5 million dollars in non vital contracts coming off the books in the next 2 years (Stajan being the lone exception). They have nearly 25 million in cap space now (closer to 18 once RFA are signed).

Jones, Hiller this year (8.5)
Smid, Engelland, Wideman next (11.75)
Stajan after that (3.125)

The Flames could easily take on a bad contract like say Semin's or even Richards, but the other team would have to pay for it. Yes players need to be re-signed, but we have 18+ million in space already to afford it. The new guy would just be taking some of the room that would be made available by departing players as the Flames make room for more of their younger players.

[GranteedEV]

Originally Posted by Fire of the Phoenix

Hope not, he's the definition of middling. The only thing he's got going for him is his age and he's RH.

Come on, he's got a lot more going for him than just age and handedness. I agree we shouldn't offer him any more than ~5.5m but he would make a positive impact on our blue line on the middle pairing with Russell or on the bottom pairing with Schlemko. We'd pretty much instantly have the best D-core in the league most likely.

Originally Posted by Caged Great

The Flames have 26.5 million dollars in non vital contracts coming off the books in the next 2 years (Stajan being the lone exception). They have nearly 25 million in cap space now (closer to 18 once RFA are signed).

But we also have a lot of vital contracts getting likely raises in Monahan and Gaudreau as well as Giordano, Russell, and Hudler. the season after next we're in for a real cap squeeze.

[Fire of the Phoenix]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Come on, he's got a lot more going for him than just age and handedness. I agree we shouldn't offer him any more than ~5.5m but he would make an impact on our blue line.

I just don't see it. He's a good 5/6 who can play PP, any team looking for more is taking a gamble because he hasn't shown to be a good top 4 (on a good team) Hes certainly not worth anything close to 5.5m. He'd become the highest paid player on our team next year at that rate. 3x4m would be more than fair but the UFA market is so bare so he'll get paid. I think his young age and being RH drive his value up as those are both rare to aquire in UFA.

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by GranteedEV

Come on, he's got a lot more going for him than just age and handedness. I agree we shouldn't offer him any more than ~5.5m but he would make a positive impact on our blue line on the middle pairing with Russell or on the bottom pairing with Schlemko. We'd pretty much instantly have the best D-core in the league most likely.



But we also have a lot of vital contracts getting likely raises in Monahan and Gaudreau as well as Giordano, Russell, and Hudler. the season after next we're in for a real cap squeeze.

Gaudreau + Monahan should have a raise of 4.5 million each on their cap hits (6.25)

Gio should increase 4 mil --> 8

Hudler should go up 2.5 --> 6.5

Russell up 1.5 --> 4

16.5 million in raises for those players still leaves 1.5 mil in a cushion plus whatever savings from the other players moving on. It is doable.

The only thing is that it would require a team to over pay to make it happen. I wouldn't take #13 by itself for taking on Richards for example. I'd want another semi decent asset as well.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by mrdonkey

Have a feeling the Flames will be going hard after Franson this summer.

Hope not because he's going to get overpaid and he's not even as good as Wideman. Would rather wait a season and offer Seabrook a 5 year deal as he's RH and worth the money.

[dammage79]

Whoever brought up Alec Martinez earlier, yes absolutely I'd be keen on seeing the Flames add him. Another layer that can play n a pressure cooker series would always be welcome on any team.

And he's top 4 quality but is best in a #5 spot.

[Captaincanada80]

Another interesting cap situation is New York Rangers

Currently has 9.5M in cap space left with 15 players signed
That is without St.Louis, Stepan and Haglin not signed.
Gotta think Stepan is re-signed at 4M+ and give Marty one yr deal
A guy like Haglin could be move potentially for a depth player (Colborne, Shore, Jorris or Byron) 1 for 1 which may only cost 1M and fills a roster spot

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by Captaincanada80

Another interesting cap situation is New York Rangers

Currently has 9.5M in cap space left with 15 players signed
That is without St.Louis, Stepan and Haglin not signed.
Gotta think Stepan is re-signed at 4M+ and give Marty one yr deal
A guy like Haglin could be move potentially for a depth player (Colborne, Shore, Jorris or Byron) 1 for 1 which may only cost 1M and fills a roster spot

That could work. Doesn't Hagelin's brother work for the Flames?

[Roof-Daddy]

Love Hagelin's speed, but he's a small left shooting winger.

[dammage79]

Marty St.Louis I'd wager is going to retire. I'm basing this solely on the color of his beard this season.

Hagelin is super streaky too. Dude can bang too, I think of him as an upgrade Byron. What separates them? Point production.

I had a delusion earlier today where Brayden Schenn came to CGY in exchange Backlund. Made sense in my head. Could possibly be attached to a larger deal that sees a decent D man come to CGY via PHI too.

[Captaincanada80]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

Love Hagelin's speed, but he's a small left shooting winger.

avg size at 5'11 but plays a big man's game
would instantly help the PK out
scored 17 the last 2 years

[Captaincanada80]

Originally Posted by dammage79

I had a delusion earlier today where Brayden Schenn came to CGY in exchange Backlund. Made sense in my head. Could possibly be attached to a larger deal that sees a decent D man come to CGY via PHI too.

I mentioned this mid season and got roasted on here.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Captaincanada80

avg size at 5'11 but plays a big man's game
would instantly help the PK out
scored 17 the last 2 years

I do like his feisty style, and I do love speed.

Originally Posted by Captaincanada80

I mentioned this mid season and got roasted on here.

Speaking of speed and feistyness, that's Brayden Schenn alright.


Imagine an "all fast and feisty" line of:

Brayden Schenn - Sam Bennett - Carl Hagelin


Ok, I'm conviced. Where do I sign?

Geezus that's be fun to watch.

[RoughRiderRowdy]

Originally Posted by Captaincanada80

I mentioned this mid season and got roasted on here.

Dont worry, the majority of time posters get roasted on here. Lots of cp'ers just enjoy disagreeing with everything for the heck of it. Dont worry to much about it

[Vinny01]

I think the Flames have to add fairly significantly to Backlund to pry Schenn out of
Philly.

I would love for the Flames to add the Achenn brothers however. Both are big, young and are good old western Canadian boys.

[codynw]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

I think the Flames have to add fairly significantly to Backlund to pry Schenn out of
Philly.

I would love for the Flames to add the Achenn brothers however. Both are big, young and are good old western Canadian boys.

Luke sucks though.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by RoughRiderRowdy

Dont worry, the majority of time posters get roasted on here. Lots of cp'ers just enjoy disagreeing with everything for the heck of it. Dont worry to much about it

nope...disagree...not true...

[sureLoss]

Friedman's 30 thoughts

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/3...or-blackhawks/

16. A couple of weeks ago, I mentioned Colorado would be looking for a defenceman to play with Erik Johnson. It’s well-documented Columbus is also looking. You can add San Jose, too. Doug Wilson despises July 1, but the Sharks need a goalie and at least one defenceman. Does he dip in, or stick to taking a big cut in the trade market?

19. In his season-ending media conference, MacLellan said he was looking to add a top-six winger. Word is out, though: Don’t even ask about Andre Burakovsky and Evgeny Kuznetsov.

25. Blues GM Doug Armstrong talked at length about his “two cores” this week.

There’s the group of forwards who’ve owned the key minutes (David Backes, Patrik Berglund, TJ Oshie, Alexander Steen) and the group that’s coming hard (Jori Lehtera, Jaden Schwartz, Vladimir Tarasenko and hopefully Dmitrij Jaskin).

“There’s the Bell Curve of a career,” he explained further on Thursday. “The data is being redefined. Age brackets pre-expansion were older… The slower game allowed longer careers. Now, the maturity of young players, with strength coaches at age 15. It’s tending to a younger man’s game every year. There’s anomalies to all of this; every player says they are the anomaly… That’s what makes them great. But young players are driving the bus at an earlier age of their career.”

What’s also happening — and these are my words, not his — is the Blues realize the previous core has hit its limit. Things started to turn over last season, with younger players getting ice time in key situations previously taken by veterans, and that will only increase in 2015-16. For example, Tarasenko spent eight seconds per game as a penalty killer. That will grow.

30. Finally, circled back around Zach Hyman, the Michigan forward who informed Florida he will become an unrestricted free agent in August. Normally, teams don’t try to trade for this kind of player, knowing they can get him for free in a little more than two months. But there does appear to be some interest (maybe to wine-and-dine him in advance, who knows?) from the likes of Detroit, San Jose and Toronto, among others. No doubt the Panthers would love to get a pick out of it, if possible.

[oldschoolcalgary]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Friedman's 30 thoughts

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/3...or-blackhawks/

the story on the blackhawks revival is definitely worth watching... hard to believe that they were once 2nd lowest in attendance in the NHL

[Glo Boyz]

Trade - Granlund for Gormley
Sign - Sekera and Frolik
Exterminate - Mason Raymond

Gaudreau - Monahan - Hudler
Bennett - Backlund - Frolik
Bouma - Colborne - Jones
Jooris - Stajan - Ferland
Byron/Bollig

Giordano - Brodie
Sekera - Russell
Gormley/Morrison/Nakladal/Diaz/Schlemko - Wideman

Hiller
Ortio